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Posted: 7/7/2015 5:18:14 AM EDT
| I have a Liberty safe in the basement of my house; currently it weighs in around 1,000 lbs.. A buddy of mine has suggested adding a homemade concrete slab and bolting it to the bottom of the safe to add a few hundred pounds to the safe as he did this to his.. My question to the group is: Is it worth doing it versus bolting it directly too my cement floor? I understand the benefits of not drilling into my cement flooring, but I'm more wondering will adding more weight be a deterrent or not. Thanks for your input. |
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Building a solid frame around the safe might be better if you don't want to drill into the slab.
I don't think your average thief is going to try moving a 1000lbs safe + 500lbs contents up some rickety stairs. The thieves will most likely try pushing your safe over to get good leverage on the door or cut into the back. |
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I don't know if this helps, but I just unloaded a 2000lb, 8 foot square container off of a trailer with nothing more than a three foot crowbar and some pieces of 3/4inch diameter, 10 inch long black pipe. Could have done it with just the bar but I was in a hurry.
IMHO, I'm sure every bit of extra weight would deter someone, but if they want yours, extra weight will not be much of a problem to deal with. |
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Since I posted on this topic, I came across this:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=731447 I kinda like the idea of having the slab, but in my mind, extra weight, just adds a minute or two to the thieves operation. But having the slab connected to my existing floor without adding holes to my foundation is a plus in my mind. |
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Since I posted on this topic, I came across this: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=731447 I kinda like the idea of having the slab, but in my mind, extra weight, just adds a minute or two to the thieves operation. But having the slab connected to my existing floor without adding holes to my foundation is a plus in my mind. You can rent a GPR unit for about $50 for the day. Guy should of rented one and just drilled the slab. |
| How about anchoring to a wall instead of a floor? Do you have that option? It is easier to repair and doesn't damage the foundation if you can do so to an interior wall. What about a building a hidden room. Stealth instead of strength. Get sneaky about owning it. I know my safe allows for mounts to a floor or a wall depending on how I want to do it. |
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Why are you so against drilling into the slab? The house is really sitting on the footings, and if you watch your depth you aren't going to go through the whole slab. I drill and anchor to basements nearly everyday so maybe I'm just jaded to it.
ETA: After reading that link, I also drill into Pretensioned slabs, so maybe I have some learning to do too
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| If it was mine, I would drill and anchor about 8 bolts (1/2" dia.) into the slab where you want the safe to be, leaving them sticking up about 4" above the slab. Then build a 6" or 8" high form slightly larger than the safe and fill it with concrete to have a nice raised concrete platform. Remove the form (or frame it with nice wood for a finished look). Now set the safe on top of it and bolt the safe down to the platform. You now have easier raised access to the contents of your safe, plus you have just given yourself a couple inches of insurance against up to a 6" flood in your basement. I have a hard time trusting even the most "waterproofed" basement anyways...seen too many basements flood even after years of being dry. |
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