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Posted: 2/10/2010 5:33:46 AM EDT
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Howdy everyone, sorry if this has been done to death (but hell if you didn't like reading the same stuff you'd have gotten off all these gun sites after like a week right ? I'm moving into a nice, large, older home. I'm just renting BUT have the permission to do as I please (An uncle is renting it to me). As it stands I do not have a nice safe, I have a cheap stack rdc. I'd like to take all my firearms with me and have a more secure place for them. I don't have THAT MANY enemies, or at least none smart enough to cut powerlines, find hidden walls, crack a safe etc. I'm playing with a few options and here they are 1) A room in the basement that as it currently stands is in the corner. 2 walls are the house and two are (1930's built, kind of strong...) approximately 1/2 inch thick wood . Really there to just separate the rooms. I'm toying with building a form and pouring concrete or using cinder blocks to make walls. My Uncle was a licensed contractor and knows quite a bit about about everything so he might be able to help me with some specifics. Were I to pour the concrete, am I right that I would probably have to do it in layers? Lots of quickrete, basic wooden forms, handmixed, perhaps drill into the floor and throw in some vertical rebar? I'd have to do this in layers as I can't just have truck come in and poor the walls. Is it reasonable to say make the wall 1-2 feet higher at a time, it might be a bitch time wise if you had to let everything cure and then put a new layer. This would likely be followed up by a steel security door, perhaps with the original wood door kept on to throw people off. 2) Building a false wall. I'd like to have a movable wall, perhaps on lazy susan type hardware. The only place that seems perfect for it would be under the stairs. This would greatly cut down on available space in the man cave, but then again what you can't see you can't steal. Probably a lot less expensive than option 1. 3) put the several hundred (perhaps upto $600) into a cheap safe (that seems all you can really get in this price range). Even used I'm having a lot of trouble finding decent safes. Costco has cannon I think, 19 guns for around $500 or so. Though it was more aesthetically pleasing, I doubt it is really that much more secure than my stack on. Though those stack ons really are pretty anemic with what they can stop. So throw some tips, help, criticism, opinions and the like at me! I need some ideas |
| You'll be spending a LOT of money into making that false room, especially if out of concrete. As a renter, you will lose the money spent when you leave, and you don't know when the renter will terminate your lease. You'd be better off spending the money on a good safe (RSC) and bolt it down in the basement. Then you can take it with you when you get your own place. |
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Well, I perhaps should clear up some details about the "rental" situation. Granted, you never know when life can shit on you but ... My uncle was unsure about purchasing a foreclosure as an investment conveniently at the same time I was moving out of my old place. He has stated he'll rent to me till I'm done with school (finishing up a double major, then I have medical school...). He keeps hinting that he'd like me to purchase the house as he asks me what I'd like in all the rooms etc (I definitely got lucky with a great uncle). Either way he is also a similarly minded prepared individual and I think he might also use this room to store some valuables or firearms. So I could have some free material and/or help with the room. Especially given the shitty housing situation, the value of this house won't be back where it should be for some time.
I'm not especially worried about the $ loss, as I'll be there for a while and can likely get that taken off my rent. I'm moving from a low crime area in Detroit to the edge of a surrounding community. The police force is great.... but I'm also more of a target because people will assume there is money/valuables. Back where I was in Detroit, it was assumed I had nothing. My biggest concern is the safety of my firearms and keeping the budget reasonable (school is not cheap!). * the false wall idea would not be concrete, likely just a wood wall frame with drywall. |
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