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Posted: 9/16/2011 2:56:47 AM EDT
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I'm considering getting my FFL for a home-based "business".
I realize that ATF wants a person to legitimately be in business, but to what extent do they take that? I want to get my FFL so I can do the occasional gunkote job, repair job etc. I have a great full-time job that I don't want to give up, and I don't want to make a full-time business out of it. I don't plan to get the FFL to get special discount etc. I just don't want to violate the law if a friend wants a gunkote job done on his/her gun or needs me to do a little work on it etc. I live in an unzoned, semi-rural area. Will ATF frown on getting an FFL for this purpose? Or am I GTG? Also, one of my concerns is personal firearms vs. firearms logged in through the bound book. How do you handle personal firearms vs. those that come through the book? If I store all my firearms in one location, do I really have to tag all of them as personal firearms to avoid getting a violation? Or can I just have one designated location for firearms that come through the bound book? |
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I'm considering getting my FFL for a home-based "business". I realize that ATF wants a person to legitimately be in business, but to what extent do they take that? ATF will want to see your business licenses, sales tax permits, and will review your local laws and codes to see if you can operate your business legally from your proposed premises. I want to get my FFL so I can do the occasional gunkote job, repair job etc. I have a great full-time job that I don't want to give up, and I don't want to make a full-time business out of it.
If you are engaged in the business of dealing or manufacturing firearms you must have a license....even if you consider it part time. If you do repairs to firearms you may cross over the line and need an 07FFL as a manufacturer. I don't plan to get the FFL to get special discount etc. I just don't want to violate the law if a friend wants a gunkote job done on his/her gun or needs me to do a little work on it etc.
I live in an unzoned, semi-rural area. Will ATF frown on getting an FFL for this purpose? Or am I GTG? ATF frowns on those who use their FFL for "personal use" only....if you are engaged in the business and can operate a business legally you will get an FFL. Also, one of my concerns is personal firearms vs. firearms logged in through the bound book.
How do you handle personal firearms vs. those that come through the book? If I store all my firearms in one location, do I really have to tag all of them as personal firearms to avoid getting a violation? Or can I just have one designated location for firearms that come through the bound book? You are correct, personal firearms must be tagged as "personal"...if you have multiple gun safes you can also mark a safe as "personal..not for sale". ATF doesn't want to find guns in your inventory that don't appear in your bound book. ATF is very clear....they consider ANY AND ALL firearms at your premises as "business" inventory. The burden is on you to clearly identify any personal firearms so that ATF is not in any way confused about what should be recorded in your bound book. |
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So along the lines of tagging an entire safe as "personal", could I tag my entire house as "personal" and anything in on business work would be kept in the shop? If you designate the shop out back as the business premises, ATF IOI's will have no reason to go in your house. For that matter, if you have an office in your house that you run the business out of, that is the business premises. The ATF won't go snooping around your bedroom. |
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So along the lines of tagging an entire safe as "personal", could I tag my entire house as "personal" and anything in on business work would be kept in the shop? If you designate the shop out back as the business premises, ATF IOI's will have no reason to go in your house. For that matter, if you have an office in your house that you run the business out of, that is the business premises. The ATF won't go snooping around your bedroom. The "shop" would be in my connected garage. So I can designate certain spaces in the home as "the business" and they won't bother with private areas of the home? That sounds like the exact answer I was looking for. I think I'm going to seriously consider this. ETA, my main concern was the bedside gun, crittier gitter in the corner and all my gun stuff I keep in my gun room. That makes it fairly complicated to keep it all tagged as personal. |
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So along the lines of tagging an entire safe as "personal", could I tag my entire house as "personal" and anything in on business work would be kept in the shop? If you designate the shop out back as the business premises, ATF IOI's will have no reason to go in your house. For that matter, if you have an office in your house that you run the business out of, that is the business premises. The ATF won't go snooping around your bedroom. The "shop" would be in my connected garage. So I can designate certain spaces in the home as "the business" and they won't bother with private areas of the home? That sounds like the exact answer I was looking for. I think I'm going to seriously consider this. ETA, my main concern was the bedside gun, crittier gitter in the corner and all my gun stuff I keep in my gun room. That makes it fairly complicated to keep it all tagged as personal. Yes, if the shop in an attached garage is your business premises, the ATF won't go into your house, unless you're up to no good, and they got a search warrant. |
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