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Posted: 4/16/2011 2:24:14 PM EDT
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I remember one time in either a newsletter or by some other means that a the ATF requires a FFL (me) to get a copy of a non FFL drivers license when they are sending me a gun from another state. A copy to prove who is sending me the gun. I have a guy who sent me a gun for a customer and he will only give me his name, no drivers license. Now is there a rule on that?
Thanks!! CSF |
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Quoted: I remember one time in either a newsletter or by some other means that a the ATF requires a FFL (me) to get a copy of a non FFL drivers license when they are sending me a gun from another state. A copy to prove who is sending me the gun. I have a guy who sent me a gun for a customer and he will only give me his name, no drivers license. Now is there a rule on that? Thanks!! CSF ATF does not require that. However I think you need his address in addition to his name. |
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Can't return it to a non-licensee once you have accepted it.
There was some discussion on this a month or so ago. There is no LAW saying that you need it. "478.124(e) The record shall show the date of receipt, the name and address or the name and license nember of the person from whom received...." The inspector asked if I got copies of DL from non-licensees who have shipped me guns last time. So this is a typical double edged sword of the ATF. When I send a copy of my license out it specifically states 'You MUST include a copy of a FFL or a DL and statement of ownership with the shipment. I WILL NOT transfer any firearm without one or the other.' I have had a few argue that they' don't need to (even FFLs), its not the LAW' and I tell them that 'it is my policy and it is OK if they don't want to include it, do not ship me the gun.' As stated elsewhere, not worth my time in the club fed for a transfer. |
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The way I look at it is. It is your business, your license and your behind on the line. You do it how you want to do it. If you do not like it get your own FFL.
I love reading on GB and other auction sites where the seller states "your FFL has to accept from a non-FFL". They make it a point to sound like they make the rules not the person holding the FFL. I know they can accept the firearm from a non-FFL if they want to. |
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Quoted:...I love reading on GB and other auction sites where the seller states "your FFL has to accept from a non-FFL". They make it a point to sound like they make the rules not the person holding the FFL. I know they can accept the firearm from a non-FFL if they want to.
Uh...........in his own auction the seller DOES make the rules  .
Not the buyer, not the buyers FFL. If the buyer doesn't have an FFL who will receive from a nonlicensee then don't freakin bid on that auction. If the buyer ignores the sellers condition of sale he only has himself to blame when his dealer refuses to transfer the firearm. |
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Quoted:
Quoted:...I love reading on GB and other auction sites where the seller states "your FFL has to accept from a non-FFL". They make it a point to sound like they make the rules not the person holding the FFL. I know they can accept the firearm from a non-FFL if they want to.
Uh...........in his own auction the seller DOES make the rules .
Not the buyer, not the buyers FFL. If the buyer doesn't have an FFL who will receive from a nonlicensee then don't freakin bid on that auction. If the buyer ignores the sellers condition of sale he only has himself to blame when his dealer refuses to transfer the firearm. Good point. OTOH I do take issue with GB when it tells non-FFL sellers to get a signed copy of the transfer dealer's license before shipping a firearm, as most dealer's won't give copies to a non-licensee. |
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