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Springfield Hellion VHS 2 (Page 28 of 30)
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Apparently the Hellion/semi-auto VHS can take the 1.5x CT scope/carry handle. Some madlad from Finland got HS Produkt to send him one, and it went right on. Springfield needs to import some ASAP. If that's true, I might really push to get a Hellion as I've been wanting the VHS-K2 CT since before the VHS even got stateside. |
Replaced my Gen 1 safety levers with the Lunartech Design safeties today. They’re 3D printed and seem robust enough, but will have to see how they hold up in the long run. I like that they replicate the OEM design. I filled in selector line myself, although the slightly rough texture of the part makes cleaning up if you go outside of the depression a little more difficult. I originally used the grip backstrap without the beavertail so I could get my hand higher to reach the OEM safety, but since the new Lunartech Design levers are extended, I had to swap to the beavertail backstrap because the right side safety was digging a little into the top of my hand. Overall, I’m pretty happy with the new levers.  |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How is everyone liking their Hellions at this point? Think I'm gonna grab one regardless of the CT optic being made available stateside. Like mine enough that I can't remember the last time I shot my ARs. It's just plain fun. I should probably shoot my ARs again soon lest I forget how. 
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How is everyone liking their Hellions at this point? Think I'm gonna grab one regardless of the CT optic being made available stateside. Mine is my go-to gun for sure. It's accurate, reliable, and extremely soft/smooth shooting. |
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Glad to hear the positive. Anybody have experience with the VHS-2 Project Simplified Stock? Seems an interesting alternative that's lighter and shorter than the factory one, though durability does seem to be the main concern as its 3D printed, though I've dealt with some rather durable printed stuff before. |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How is everyone liking their Hellions at this point? Think I'm gonna grab one regardless of the CT optic being made available stateside. I miss my so much that I am willing to give up my MCX for it ... some say I am stupid to do that ... lol ... |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How is everyone liking their Hellions at this point? Think I'm gonna grab one regardless of the CT optic being made available stateside. I'm loving mine. No upgrades outside of optics yet, although the Lunartech safety leavers and the Jard trigger have me intrigued. |
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Originally Posted By thevhs2project: There is a video on the product page of the Simplifed stock being slammed into a rock. Ah, didn't know you were on here. I did see the video, I just wanted to see if anybody consumer side had any experience with them. I do love to save weight, but I don't want to fall for some of the same pitfalls I subjected myself to of going lighter and sacrificing much when it comes to longevity. |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How is everyone liking their Hellions at this point? Think I'm gonna grab one regardless of the CT optic being made available stateside.  |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: I miss my so much that I am willing to give up my MCX for it ... some say I am stupid to do that ... lol ... I like my Hellion but I’m a big MCX homer. Wont call you stupid but would not do it in your shoes. As to the original question: yes, still liking mine quite a bit. Bought it figuring I would end up trading it off like I did my Tavor. I still have the VHS and have no intentions of dumping it. Its a solid rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001: @sven I know this is a long shot, but, AR style sights to replace the current flip up sights? I hate the full hooded front and even the largest rear aperture is too small, at least for what us Americans are used to. |
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Originally Posted By vectorsc: It seems like it would be a long shot for sure. The factory sights are just so capable, and most people are running a dot or optic anyway. The only problem with the factory sights is that the marking on the front right is backwards. But otherwise, they are excellent and shouldn't be changed. |
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Originally Posted By vectorsc: It seems like it would be a long shot for sure. The factory sights are just so capable, and most people are running a dot or optic anyway. They're honestly some of, maybe "the", best-designed modern rifle sights I've ever seen. |
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001: @sven I know this is a long shot, but, AR style sights to replace the current flip up sights? I hate the full hooded front and even the largest rear aperture is too small, at least for what us Americans are used to. @Caeser2001 Unfortunately I do not see a market for replacement sights for the ones on the Hellion, and as the comments above suggest, I think most everyone is very happy with the OEM design, myself included. Out of curiousity how close are you running your eyeball to the rear sight? If you are running a much more upright position, you might just have your eye farther back than is ideal for the sights, they work really, really well in a head forward position (and I am also running our Hellion Curved Buttpad which places you an inch closer to it to boot). Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Caeser2001 Unfortunately I do not see a market for replacement sights for the ones on the Hellion, and as the comments above suggest, I think most everyone is very happy with the OEM design, myself included. Out of curiousity how close are you running your eyeball to the rear sight? If you are running a much more upright position, you might just have your eye farther back than is ideal for the sights, they work really, really well in a head forward position (and I am also running our Hellion Curved Buttpad which places you an inch closer to it to boot). Sven Manticore Arms Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Originally Posted By Caeser2001: @sven I know this is a long shot, but, AR style sights to replace the current flip up sights? I hate the full hooded front and even the largest rear aperture is too small, at least for what us Americans are used to. @Caeser2001 Unfortunately I do not see a market for replacement sights for the ones on the Hellion, and as the comments above suggest, I think most everyone is very happy with the OEM design, myself included. Out of curiousity how close are you running your eyeball to the rear sight? If you are running a much more upright position, you might just have your eye farther back than is ideal for the sights, they work really, really well in a head forward position (and I am also running our Hellion Curved Buttpad which places you an inch closer to it to boot). Sven Manticore Arms I’m as far forward as I can be. I still have the stock buttpad, that doesn’t help. I ran it in a night match back in November with irons and realized how much more I like AR sights🤷♂️ |
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001: I'm as far forward as I can be. I still have the stock buttpad, that doesn't help. I ran it in a night match back in November with irons and realized how much more I like AR sights |
| How well does the Hellion's suppressor setting work? I'm thinking about getting a new can to go with the Hellion after I grab one, but I'm definitely looking to grab a reflex suppressor just because I'm a fickle idiot like that, and I buy stuff for my personal enjoyment rather than pure practicality. |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How well does the Hellion's suppressor setting work? I'm thinking about getting a new can to go with the Hellion after I grab one, but I'm definitely looking to grab a reflex suppressor just because I'm a fickle idiot like that, and I buy stuff for my personal enjoyment rather than pure practicality. Works well. It is an excellent suppressor host for whatever you got... |
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Originally Posted By BSJ: Works well. It is an excellent suppressor host for whatever you got... Originally Posted By BSJ: Originally Posted By WriterClarke: How well does the Hellion's suppressor setting work? I'm thinking about getting a new can to go with the Hellion after I grab one, but I'm definitely looking to grab a reflex suppressor just because I'm a fickle idiot like that, and I buy stuff for my personal enjoyment rather than pure practicality. Works well. It is an excellent suppressor host for whatever you got... |
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Originally Posted By FullAssault: I wish they would offer a run with the 1.5 optic https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/e1/3a/ffe13a5d2585b5d04e97d1d148f662d6.jpg |
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Originally Posted By right_rudder: Or just sell them on their online store as an option Originally Posted By right_rudder: Originally Posted By FullAssault: I wish they would offer a run with the 1.5 optic https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/e1/3a/ffe13a5d2585b5d04e97d1d148f662d6.jpg Yeah. I’d like to see it with one and the optic separate for existing users. |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: Yeah. I'd like to see it with one and the optic separate for existing users. Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By right_rudder: Originally Posted By FullAssault: I wish they would offer a run with the 1.5 optic https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/e1/3a/ffe13a5d2585b5d04e97d1d148f662d6.jpg Yeah. I'd like to see it with one and the optic separate for existing users. Springfield is leaving money on the table |
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9 Holes Reviews just released a review on the 20in VHS-2. I’m posting from my phone so apologies if the link is messed up  VHS-2 / Springfield "Hellion" (Is it a FAMAS inspiration?) to 700yds: Practical Accuracy |
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Originally Posted By FriskyDillo: 9 Holes Reviews just released a review on the 20in VHS-2. I’m posting from my phone so apologies if the link is messed up  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op84QEjMZzUThis kind of stuff is just making me itch for a 20" even more. Work bonus can't come soon enough, though I might have to grab that military style grip module. The gassing complaint does make sense,wish the rifle would barely or not even cycle on the suppressed setting to better accommodate high backpressure cans. |
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Are they ever going to release the 20” in Green? Last I looked they only offered the 20 in black. I’ve got a NIB 16” that I’m sure I’m gonna lose my ass on as I’d like to replace it with green 20”. Springfield doesn’t seem to do a great job in offering accessories for these unfortunately. |
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Originally Posted By CitizenKane: Are they ever going to release the 20" in Green? Last I looked they only offered the 20 in black. I've got a NIB 16" that I'm sure I'm gonna lose my ass on as I'd like to replace it with green 20". Springfield doesn't seem to do a great job in offering accessories for these unfortunately. I have a black 16" that I plan to keep (I guess) but really want a 20" in FDE or OD I know it's asking too much but it would be awesome if someone made aftermarket barrels for them in different calibers. The VHS/Hellion would rock in 6 arc.
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Originally Posted By CitizenKane: Are they ever going to release the 20” in Green? Last I looked they only offered the 20 in black. I’ve got a NIB 16” that I’m sure I’m gonna lose my ass on as I’d like to replace it with green 20”. Springfield doesn’t seem to do a great job in offering accessories for these unfortunately. Sure hope so, I want an ODG 20" to go with my FDE 16". |
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Originally Posted By CitizenKane: Are they ever going to release the 20” in Green? Last I looked they only offered the 20 in black. I’ve got a NIB 16” that I’m sure I’m gonna lose my ass on as I’d like to replace it with green 20”. Springfield doesn’t seem to do a great job in offering accessories for these unfortunately. @CitizenKane What do you mean by Springfield not doing a great job offering accessories? What accessories are you referring to? Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @CitizenKane What do you mean by Springfield not doing a great job offering accessories? What accessories are you referring to? Sven Manticore Arms I’d like to see a factory optic carry handle, a green stock in other barrel lengths or available separately, and a correct factory magwell option with some factory mags imported. It’s been several years, I just can’t believe they couldn’t import some of this stuff if even in small quantities. I bought one of the magwells for factory mags only to find the bottoms are trimmed to fit the 10 rounder. I could deal with that as they still take the factory mags but the only place they have been available has been sold out for a year or more it seems. I’ve tried to sell the magwell to cut my losses but nobody seems interested I assume because no factory VHS-2 magazines are available. ETA I’d also like to see a more correct style pistol grip configuration but I believe someone is making that now. |
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Well, just because I still haven't picked up a Hellion (Wanting to see if I can snag a 20" on a good sale cause I just don't wanna pay 1,600$ for it because I'm gonna have to throw some more money at it anyways), I sent Springfield another email asking about the CT optic if there is any chance at some being imported, though I expect it to be the same response as everyone else has gotten prior. A 6ARC barrel/bolt would be really cool, but we'd definitely need a bit more spare parts availability for me to get into it on the Hellion. |
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Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if the optic was crazy expensive on top of having limited utility. Much like the G36 optic carry handles: cool but not actually great for the $600-$1000 they cost. I’d love one too, but I’m not sure I’d want to spend that sort of coin. Yeah, I bought one of the AUG SF scopes for their crazy price when Steyr released them but the cachet there is a little different. I wouldn’t be surprised if Springfield is intentionally limiting the OEM magazine availability in the US. One of the criteria the ATF uses on their import criteria for “sporting rifles” is the ability to accept high-capacity mags. If the neutered form is coming in with the chopped 10-rounders and 922r’ed here for the NATO mags, they may be trying to say there are no high-capacity magazines available in the market for them so it flies. Otherwise they may have to make some other (more expensive to fix) mod to keep them importable. So I’m not enthused by it but I’d rather the VHS be importable and reasonably priced than not imported or higher priced because it requires significant rework at Geneseo. They’d be better off tackling a mag module themselves but then it becomes a question of why bother. I think the longer-barrel versions in the additional colors would be what I’d like to see. I’d like to get the FDE in the 16” and OD in the 20”. Just hard to justify already having them both in black. No interest in the 18” for me. Alternatively, make the barrel assemblies available as replacements and I’d be kosher changing them out myself.I think a slightly different handguard might be nice? The OEM is pretty decent though. Maybe an aluminum one would be a little lighter but it’ll conduct heat more. And given Henry’s (9-Hole) review taking the 20” out to 700 yards with a prism optic and magnifier, the handguard isn’t holding the gun back at all. I don’t want to call it absolutely perfect but out of the box, it’s pretty complete without needing significant upgrades. The only other gun I’ve really said that about was my Bren 805 when I unboxed it. I did the retro mods to it to make it look the original 805A1 but it was great as-is with the NATO mags, folding/collapsing stock, awesome trigger, and great sights. |
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Originally Posted By Findsman: I’d like to get the FDE in the 16” and OD in the 20”. Pretty, pretty, pretty please?! I already have a black 16 (I was a very early adopter) and I want a 20", and I want an OD gun. Not gonna buy a black 20, not gonna buy a green 16. Make a green 20 and I'm in for another. |
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Yeah, I think outside of the CT optic, I'm fairly content with how the gun ships. If they ever did ship the CT optic, I'd certainly expect it to be overpriced and underperforming, but its really not a logical choice I'd be making to get it. I have no interest in the original mags for it, and I think the only alternate 5.56 mags I'd want compatibility with is maybe AUG mags, just because I've used them before, and prefer them to AR pattern mags. I'm quite happy with the standard handguard on it from the bit of hands on time I've had. I've never liked aluminum handguards where I live due to the heat so its either been polymer or CF handguards for me. I think I'll be changing out the grip setup to Lunar Tech's clone grip module, and possibly swapping out the stock to the VHS-2 Project's simplified stock to drop a bit of length and weight. |
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Originally Posted By rb889: AUG or G36 magwell would be awesome. How low a mount does the VHS need? Something like 1” rings on an LPVO, or the low mount for the mini ACOG’s? I'm going with a 1" ring for my optic when I get mine. I tried a standard cowitness optic on one and found it too high for my preference. |
| Is anyone else having issues with their Jard trigger? Mine wouldn't reset at all initially, I contacted them and they walked me through their adjustment procedure over the phone. Trigger still failed to reset so they told me to send it in for adjustment (on my dime). I got it back and now it has intermittent hammer follow where the trigger won't reset until I cycle the bolt manually. Does anyone know a quick fix for this or do I have to go through the return process again? |
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See the 4th item and note in the Adjustment instructions. 4. With the hammer forward (Hold the hammer down and guide it forward to prevent damage. Push the sear actuator (7) rearward to release the hammer.) the spring tension screw (14) can be adjusted with a 1/8” hex key. Turn clockwise to increase pull and counter-clockwise to decrease pull weight. If adjusted too tight or “heavy” the sear will not move, adjusted too loose or “light” the sear will not reset properly. NOTE: If screws begin to turn too easily, apply thread locker to their threads to prevent deviation from adjustment. Allow 24 hours for thread locker to cure before use. |
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Originally Posted By BSJ: Bugger up your hammer and you'll brick the rifle. Springfield will not sell trigger parts... Originally Posted By BSJ: Bugger up your hammer and you'll brick the rifle. Springfield will not sell trigger parts... LOL, Im not worried. I can buy a Jard if I mess up. But Barrys vid is just what I need. More specifically getting rid of the very long take up and modifying the safety to match.My trigger pack already has a trigger job Originally Posted By 1P29: Is this the video? Search YouTube: "Barry Gregg", "DIY Springfield Hellion Trigger Job" Ah looks like he reuploaded yesterday. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: LOL, Im not worried. I can buy a Jard if I mess up. But Barrys vid is just what I need. More specifically getting rid of the very long take up and modifying the safety to match.My trigger pack already has a trigger job Ah looks like he reuploaded yesterday. Keep me posted how it turns out. Kind of hard to see what he did but looks straightforward. Just getting rid of the pre-travel would be a massive improvement. My Jard does not lock back on last round so I went back to the factory trigger, considering doing this |
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