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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Other than the non-chrome barrel, this also deterred me from buying the Hellion. I realize only too well the AR15/M16 would also choke, but I feel like an AK might keep going for a full mag?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFLFa7-bToAm I over the top with my expectations of a SHTF rifle? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:35:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: There are no military mud tests that are as stupid as that one. It's purely for added drama I would agree. I like the one AKOU does where he throws the rifle in the muddy river with a string attached, drains the water, and test fires. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:27:36 PM EDT
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  And....so it beings. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:06:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChengSMGT]
[#4]
School me as to the purpose of that flash hider thingie. What makes it better than your average A2 style?
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Posted: 3/25/2024 7:35:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChengSMGT: School me as to the purpose of that flash hider thingie. What makes it better than your average A2 style? It's the muzzle brake I am most interested in. I have a similar Griffin brake (no longer made) on my MA -10 and really like it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 7:42:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Absolutely nothing. It's the muzzle brake I am most interested in. I have a similar Griffin brake (no longer made) on my MA -10 and really like it. Never understood what a muzzle brake did for a .223 rifle other than more noise and flash, from the sides. There so little recoil anyway, especially for a 8 lb rifle. I have only ever used them on .308 rifles. Just my take. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 7:49:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Never understood what a muzzle brake did for a .223 rifle other than more noise and flash, from the sides. There so little recoil anyway, especially for a 8 lb rifle. I have only ever used them on .308 rifles. Just my take. I.E. I just like how it looks. Don't care about anything else. I am so physically broken that I won't be fighting off a mob of puppies let alone taking part in the lamepocaclypse. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:50:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
[#8]
 Just picked this up. The dot came with it....yeah...not a Vortex fan....it'll be replaced. Trigger pull ain't THAT bad...it's only a mile or so long!!!!  Lucky for me, I am an AUG guy and not a trigger snob. This is almost as smooth as my Costa Mesa AR-180 was. Almost. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Absolutely nothing. It's the muzzle brake I am most interested in. I have a similar Griffin brake (no longer made) on my MA -10 and really like it. I can appreciate that sentiment. Make something your own with what you like (same as cars, motorcycles etc). I had never seen something like that so didn't realize it was a muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:14:41 PM EDT
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Did the same thing as I do with my AUG: the old "PB Blaster Teflon Dry Lube Trigger Job (patent pending!!!)
It smoothed up the trigger a lot! Didn't do shit for the 400 mile length of pull but at least there is a gun that makes the AUG look like it has a respectable trigger. ( I don't mind the AUG trigger but it ain't no M16, that is for sure )  I put on the Magpul MOE- K and took it off in 5 minutes. Made the gun incredibly uncomfortable. The angle was fine but the grip is so thin and the back of the gun so heavy that it actually squishes the gun onto the joint at the base of the thumb...like...hard! I was surprised at that. The BCM went right back on...ugly thing that it is...form follows function. When I put a patch down the barrel I got metal slivers all over the patch, so I tore the gun down and cleaned everything. Then did the patented trigger job while there. Also typical oiling,etc. Didn't find another sliver, no peeling chrome...nothing. That was weird. So, despite that initial finding...everything in the gun looks FANTASTIC. There aren't very many American companies left that make guns this nice. Honestly...(and I love my AUG) Steyr USA doesn't hold a candle to this. ...and Springfield couldn't do this on their own if they tried. Like the xD, this is one of the very best guns that Springfield doesn't make. (which are the only Springfield guns I will own...my VERY old M1A excepted) I really like this gun and I want to thank EVERYONE that has had input in this thread. I was able to make a pretty well informed decision and I am happy I bought this. Now...for that stupid effing Renaissance Fair to end ( GOD I hate that thing ) so I can get out of town and shoot this. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 8:10:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Did the same thing as I do with my AUG: the old "PB Blaster Teflon Dry Lube Trigger Job (patent pending!!!) It smoothed up the trigger a lot! Didn't do shit for the 400 mile length of pull but at least there is a gun that makes the AUG look like it has a respectable trigger. ( I don't mind the AUG trigger but it ain't no M16, that is for sure ) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23042/Break_Down-3172230.jpg I put on the Magpul MOE- K and took it off in 5 minutes. Made the gun incredibly uncomfortable. The angle was fine but the grip is so thin and the back of the gun so heavy that it actually squishes the gun onto the joint at the base of the thumb...like...hard! I was surprised at that. The BCM went right back on...ugly thing that it is...form follows function. When I put a patch down the barrel I got metal slivers all over the patch, so I tore the gun down and cleaned everything. Then did the patented trigger job while there. Also typical oiling,etc. Didn't find another sliver, no peeling chrome...nothing. That was weird. So, despite that initial finding...everything in the gun looks FANTASTIC. There aren't very many American companies left that make guns this nice. Honestly...(and I love my AUG) Steyr USA doesn't hold a candle to this. ...and Springfield couldn't do this on their own if they tried. Like the xD, this is one of the very best guns that Springfield doesn't make. (which are the only Springfield guns I will own...my VERY old M1A excepted) I really like this gun and I want to thank EVERYONE that has had input in this thread. I was able to make a pretty well informed decision and I am happy I bought this. Now...for that stupid effing Renaissance Fair to end ( GOD I hate that thing ) so I can get out of town and shoot this. Yeah, a little light oil on the sear and other contact surfaces had a noticeable effect of the perceived weight of the trigger. I couldn't find my moly grease, but that will be next to try... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2024 2:21:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Picked this up Friday and tried out a brief setup. Right now I have an Arisaka VFG in place of the True North, and a Holosun 510c + the 3x magnifier in leiu of the Sector G1
 
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Posted: 4/1/2024 7:24:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stormhammer: Picked this up Friday and tried out a brief setup. Right now I have an Arisaka VFG in place of the True North, and a Holosun 510c + the 3x magnifier in leiu of the Sector G1 https://i.imgur.com/hNKOYKp.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/FA9ubck.jpeg |
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Posted: 4/1/2024 7:37:27 AM EDT
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Current set up.
Primary Arms SLX MD-25 with acss reticle on a low mount and a Strike Ind. Finger stop. Had a BCM vfg on it but felt to cramped. 
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Posted: 4/1/2024 7:56:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RottenPumpkin: Current set up. Primary Arms SLX MD-25 with acss reticle on a low mount and a Strike Ind. Finger stop. Had a BCM vfg on it but felt to cramped. https://i.postimg.cc/zGVKbLV4/20240324-103642.jpg |
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Posted: 4/1/2024 8:05:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: How you liking that grip? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By RottenPumpkin: Current set up. Primary Arms SLX MD-25 with acss reticle on a low mount and a Strike Ind. Finger stop. Had a BCM vfg on it but felt to cramped. https://i.postimg.cc/zGVKbLV4/20240324-103642.jpg It's good. It's a Magpul grip, but not sure which model. Has the rubberized coating. Bought the gun used and it was on there. The angle is nice. |
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Posted: 4/1/2024 8:39:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RottenPumpkin: It's good. It's a Magpul grip, but not sure which model. Has the rubberized coating. Bought the gun used and it was on there. The angle is nice. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2024 8:46:45 AM EDT
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Has anyone found a bullpup friendly brass catcher?
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WY, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2024 7:14:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Naw man, it's not about collecting, it's just that if for any reason I have to grab a rifle and head out the door for whatever calamity, I want that rifle be able to take rain, mud, and for weeks or months out in the elements without degrading. I don't understand how if my sub $1K Colt LE rifles and cheap Cugir AKs can have a CL barrel, why can't a $1600 rifle have one. My Tavor and SA-58 had one. Even PSA can do it without breaking the bank. I handled the Hellion, and really liked it, but that was one of the things holding me back. You might think prepping reasons are a silly reason not to buy a rifle, but to me it matters, when the cost and final analysis are added up. The military version doesn't have a chrome lined barrel either. I'm guessing the fact that Croatia has almost no chromium deposits whatsoever has something to do with that. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 2:22:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Thank you for the information. Much appreciated. FWIW its a Magpul K2+ grip |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 2:24:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stormhammer]
[#21]
Dug out my Meprolight MOR Pro
 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 5:21:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stormhammer: Dug out my Meprolight MOR Pro https://i.imgur.com/pJKH15h.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/u1vcCvf.jpeg I didn't even know that this optic existed, but now I'm super interested. What is the height of the optic center? I have an EOTech magnifier and would like to know what height mount to use if I get this optic to go with it. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 8:35:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: I didn't even know that this optic existed, but now I'm super interested. What is the height of the optic center? I have an EOTech magnifier and would like to know what height mount to use if I get this optic to go with it. Oh jeez, let me see if I can find the exact measurements online. I know its not absolute co-witness. In the past with Holosuns HM3X manifier I had to put it on a Unity riser 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:31:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stormhammer: Oh jeez, let me see if I can find the exact measurements online. I know its not absolute co-witness. In the past with Holosuns HM3X manifier I had to put it on a Unity riser https://i.redd.it/pigp5thtzwgb1.jpg Thanks for that. Can you cowitness standard AR irons through it at all? |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 10:37:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: I didn't even know that this optic existed, but now I'm super interested. What is the height of the optic center? I have an EOTech magnifier and would like to know what height mount to use if I get this optic to go with it. If it's designed like other Israeli optics for Israeli rifles w/lower optic rails, expect about a 1.93" height over bore. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/5/2024 3:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jellyfrosh: The military version doesn't have a chrome lined barrel either. I'm guessing the fact that Croatia has almost no chromium deposits whatsoever has something to do with that. Hmmm… yet Albania’s major export is chrome. They could have made a deal. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 3:33:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Is a white version of the VHS in the works? That would be Star Wars goodness.
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Posted: 4/5/2024 5:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stormhammer: Oh jeez, let me see if I can find the exact measurements online. I know its not absolute co-witness. In the past with Holosuns HM3X manifier I had to put it on a Unity riser https://i.redd.it/pigp5thtzwgb1.jpg |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavia: Hmmm… yet Albania’s major export is chrome. They could have made a deal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavia: Originally Posted By Jellyfrosh: The military version doesn't have a chrome lined barrel either. I'm guessing the fact that Croatia has almost no chromium deposits whatsoever has something to do with that. Hmmm… yet Albania’s major export is chrome. They could have made a deal. While the two nations have what look like good relations (which is unusual given… well, the Balkans) they don’t share a border. Croatia may be hesitant to have a dependency on a strategic resource outside their control that could be blocked when the next inevitable shitfest goes down. Serbia is also short on chromium which is why historically Zastava didn’t use lined barrels. It’s a major selling feature for them now so they’ve figured it out but Zastava is a little more mature than HS Produkt. 
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Posted: 4/7/2024 7:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stormhammer: FWIW its a Magpul K2+ grip |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 12:24:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RottenPumpkin: Current set up. Primary Arms SLX MD-25 with acss reticle on a low mount and a Strike Ind. Finger stop. Had a BCM vfg on it but felt to cramped. https://i.postimg.cc/zGVKbLV4/20240324-103642.jpg I’m also using the PA MD25. Seems like a good sized optic for this particular platform and easily allows for cowitness if needed. 
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Posted: 4/10/2024 7:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: I’m also using the PA MD25. Seems like a good sized optic for this particular platform and easily allows for cowitness if needed. https://i.ibb.co/Y2w9Mx6/506119-F7-7760-447-C-B2-F4-712853-BBE878.jpg Is that a lancer mag? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2024 1:12:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: Thanks for that. Can you cowitness standard AR irons through it at all? Not at all. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 2:37:33 PM EDT
[#34]
FAB Defense ULTIMAG
magazines drop free from my VHS-2. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 4:58:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
[#35]
Speaking of drop free. (If anyone cares for more info. Too, some guns will be different from others so YMMV)
P-Mags drop free in mine. Lancers seat a bit mooshy but do lock in and drop free. Brownell's 20 round Gov't model AR mags drop free. Daniel Defense DD32s drop free. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:34:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Speaking of drop free. (If anyone cares for more info. Too, some guns will be different from others so YMMV) P-Mags drop free in mine. Lancers seat a bit mooshy but do lock in and drop free. Brownell's 20 round Gov't model AR mags drop free. Daniel Defense DD32s drop free. Yeah, my GI style metal mags drop free as well. Although not quite as easily as the FAB Defense. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 10:41:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Odinforever2000]
[#37]
 Hellion Trigger Upgrade! #hellion #helliontrigger #BillSpringfield BillSpringfield is doing trigger work for this rifle now... 75$ and all you need to do is send in the trigger pack.. |
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Posted: Yesterday 11:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-8kb027aSQBillSpringfield is doing trigger work for this rifle now... 75$ and all you need to do is send in the trigger pack.. |
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Posted: Yesterday 11:53:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-8kb027aSQBillSpringfield is doing trigger work for this rifle now... 75$ and all you need to do is send in the trigger pack.. Hellion Trigger Upgrade! #hellion #helliontrigger #BillSpringfield |
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Posted: Today 12:05:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: VERY tempting! I saw a review of his trigger work and it looked REALLY good! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-8kb027aSQBillSpringfield is doing trigger work for this rifle now... 75$ and all you need to do is send in the trigger pack.. I've got a couple of BS triggers... I've not had problems myself and I wish I could recommend them, but I've replaced them with MBTs. |
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Posted: Today 12:58:17 AM EDT
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I've heard good things about Bill Springfield's trigger work. I've heard bad things, too.
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OR, USA
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Posted: Today 1:14:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: I've heard good things about Bill Springfield's trigger work. I've heard bad things, too. Ive now got 2 bullpup triggers hes worked on. MDRx and the Vhs/2..Love them both |
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VA, USA
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Posted: Today 8:35:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: Ive now got 2 bullpup triggers hes worked on. MDRx and the Vhs/2..Love them both How do you get in touch with the guy? If I got his website right it looks like it's down |
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