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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:33:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Awesome, now you can finally torture test it & break some stuff for us!
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:37:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Part of me wants to sell it while I can say it's working in good faith.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:18:11 PM EDT
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Part of me wants to sell it while I can say it's working in good faith. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:39:25 PM EDT
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Part of me wants to sell it while I can say it's working in good faith. I threw the lwts on it and zero'd it. Once the aluminum handguard shows up I'll probably throw a peq or dbal on it and attempt to take it hog hunting. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 2:27:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Not sure how long this has been on the DT website, but it looks like we're getting ANOTHER gas valve:
https://deserttech.com/parts.php?item=2385 "Description The 2019 gas valve has been improved upon to be more intuitive and user friendly and allow an even wider range of compatibility with different combinations of ammunition & suppressors than the previous gas valves. We have also incorporated the changes in all .223/5.56 MDR's that have shipped. Kit includes valve, coiled spring pin, gas knob detent spring, and gas knob detent. Valve will come with piston ring installed. Current gas valve is not available. New valve coming soon." |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 3:47:34 PM EDT
[#6]
Nice, with these improvements every 6 months or so it's like Christmas multiple times a year. If they keep up this pace of part replacement users will have a new rifle every couple of years.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 3:54:00 PM EDT
[#7]
I am so glad I did not jump in on this cluster fuck of a rifle.
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Posted: 12/6/2019 2:36:21 PM EDT
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I was thinking of picking this rifle up in 556, would it be worth it or should I wait a couple more months? I really want it in 300 blk but the website only shows 556 & 308 in complete rifles. I do own a rdb, rfb, and x95. I bought all of them as I waited for this rifle. I just don't want to sink tons of cash into a gun if 2020 brings improvements to it.
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Posted: 12/6/2019 8:24:26 PM EDT
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I was thinking of picking this rifle up in 556, would it be worth it or should I wait a couple more months? I really want it in 300 blk but the website only shows 556 & 308 in complete rifles. I do own a rdb, rfb, and x95. I bought all of them as I waited for this rifle. I just don't want to sink tons of cash into a gun if 2020 brings improvements to it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2019 9:27:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I was thinking of picking this rifle up in 556, would it be worth it or should I wait a couple more months? I really want it in 300 blk but the website only shows 556 & 308 in complete rifles. I do own a rdb, rfb, and x95. I bought all of them as I waited for this rifle. I just don't want to sink tons of cash into a gun if 2020 brings improvements to it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2019 1:37:34 AM EDT
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I was thinking of picking this rifle up in 556, would it be worth it or should I wait a couple more months? I really want it in 300 blk but the website only shows 556 & 308 in complete rifles. I do own a rdb, rfb, and x95. I bought all of them as I waited for this rifle. I just don't want to sink tons of cash into a gun if 2020 brings improvements to it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2019 4:06:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Um, maybe read the thread and decide if Delphi Tech is the kind of company you want to invest your money in... 
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Posted: 12/7/2019 4:13:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Um, maybe read the thread and decide if Delphi Tech is the kind of company you want to invest your money in... |
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Posted: 12/7/2019 9:29:08 PM EDT
[#14]
I don't really care if the company sucks. I really want this gun to work.
A fully ambidextrous bullpup that I can easily switch from left to right handed shooter in a matter of seconds. The forward discharge is awesome for a lefty and having friends be able to shoot in the same set up. Please tell me it is fixed. |
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Posted: 12/7/2019 9:35:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Okay, it's fixed.
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Posted: 12/8/2019 3:20:09 AM EDT
[#16]
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I don't really care if the company sucks. I really want this gun to work. A fully ambidextrous bullpup that I can easily switch from left to right handed shooter in a matter of seconds. The forward discharge is awesome for a lefty and having friends be able to shoot in the same set up. Please tell me it is fixed. |
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Posted: 12/8/2019 3:56:56 AM EDT
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Okay, it's fixed. |
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Posted: 12/8/2019 12:39:37 PM EDT
[#18]
My 308 has been working correctly since updated. My only complaint is the recoil impulse. It's not painful or anything, but the MDR rocks me off target compared to my 18" M1A.
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Posted: 12/8/2019 3:15:22 PM EDT
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My 308 has been working correctly since updated. My only complaint is the recoil impulse. It's not painful or anything, but the MDR rocks me off target compared to my 18" M1A. |
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Posted: 12/8/2019 4:10:39 PM EDT
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Here's mine as it sits now. Jard trigger is a massive improvement. Predictable break, the only mushiness is now in the transfer bar, short overtravel, short reset. I could see it being very fast with the 5.56 version.
It has all the latest parts except the ejection panel spring kit. Still seems like a finicky operating system. I switched from a surefire sps300 to a sico hybrid with a cherry bomb and had to switch from 2-3 on the gas plug because I was getting some short stroke type failures. It seems like it's a solid 1-1.5 moa shooter. Comparable to my cl mws barrel.  Attached FileAs pictured with a full 25rd mag the balance point is right around the grip. |
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Posted: 12/8/2019 5:12:22 PM EDT
[#21]
What scope? Thermal?
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Posted: 12/8/2019 5:19:15 PM EDT
[#22]
L3 lwts
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Posted: 12/8/2019 8:30:29 PM EDT
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Every video I've seen it looks...bucky. Like shooting a shotgun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My 308 has been working correctly since updated. My only complaint is the recoil impulse. It's not painful or anything, but the MDR rocks me off target compared to my 18" M1A. With a can and prepared, it's manageable. |
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Posted: 12/9/2019 6:26:06 AM EDT
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Every video I’ve seen it looks...bucky. Like shooting a shotgun. |
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Posted: 12/9/2019 10:16:13 AM EDT
[#25]
It is inherent to its bolt velocity requirement to cycle the action effectively...a brake/suppressor will tame it...but it is the most uncomfortable .308 semi auto I ever got a chance to fire...
The 5.56 MDR is a totally different animal and its much better... |
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Posted: 12/9/2019 11:03:16 AM EDT
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I can only assume that because of the port placement and subsequent early extraction with the 308 the port has to be oversized to get enough initial force to break the case loose from the chamber. I haven't shot the 5.56 but that's the only way in my head I can make sense of the recoil impulses supposedly being so different when it's the same operating system.
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Posted: 12/10/2019 6:05:09 AM EDT
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I can only assume that because of the port placement and subsequent early extraction with the 308 the port has to be oversized to get enough initial force to break the case loose from the chamber. I haven't shot the 5.56 but that's the only way in my head I can make sense of the recoil impulses supposedly being so different when it's the same operating system. |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 10:28:23 AM EDT
[#28]
Well...the gas length pretty much replicates the SCAR17...the difference is...bolt mass and bolt travel...the MDR is very short in that regard...and the bolt is very light...thus...the gas system has to be overgassed to cycle the rifle with fast bolt velocity...thus creates the snappy .308 feeling...
The MDR has one of the lightest, if not the lightest bolt carrier weight...IIRC the .308 MDR bolt carrier assembly is relatively the same weight as a standard AR15 carrier... Putting a brake on the MDR tames it...but the snappy action is still there...beating itself...I can't stand shooting the .308 MDR...but the 5.56 MDR is not too shabby... |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 1:24:47 PM EDT
[#29]
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Well...the gas length pretty much replicates the SCAR17...the difference is...bolt mass and bolt travel...the MDR is very short in that regard...and the bolt is very light...thus...the gas system has to be overgassed to cycle the rifle with fast bolt velocity...thus creates the snappy .308 feeling... The MDR has one of the lightest, if not the lightest bolt carrier weight...IIRC the .308 MDR bolt carrier assembly is relatively the same weight as a standard AR15 carrier... Putting a brake on the MDR tames it...but the snappy action is still there...beating itself...I can't stand shooting the .308 MDR...but the 5.56 MDR is not too shabby... |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 4:17:37 PM EDT
[#30]
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Here's mine as it sits now. Jard trigger is a massive improvement. Predictable break, the only mushiness is now in the transfer bar, short overtravel, short reset. I could see it being very fast with the 5.56 version. It has all the latest parts except the ejection panel spring kit. Still seems like a finicky operating system. I switched from a surefire sps300 to a sico hybrid with a cherry bomb and had to switch from 2-3 on the gas plug because I was getting some short stroke type failures. It seems like it's a solid 1-1.5 moa shooter. Comparable to my cl mws barrel. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/34327/92BB9ECC-7E9C-4775-983B-B98E773EA824_jpeg-1188153.JPG As pictured with a full 25rd mag the balance point is right around the grip. |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 8:49:07 PM EDT
[#31]
I haven't seen Spector762's setup yet...extending the gas system IS the solution...not this over gassed bandaid fix that DT did....look at the T7...it has an intermediate gas system....
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Posted: 12/10/2019 9:07:47 PM EDT
[#32]
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I haven't seen Spector762's setup yet...extending the gas system IS the solution...not this over gassed bandaid fix that DT did....look at the T7...it has an intermediate gas system.... |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 10:18:42 PM EDT
[#33]
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I haven't seen Spector762's setup yet...extending the gas system IS the solution...not this over gassed bandaid fix that DT did....look at the T7...it has an intermediate gas system.... |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 11:12:18 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I remember right he took a 18" rifle length gas bsf barrel for a ar-10 and the barrel extension threads are the same as the mdr. Had es tactical put a mdr extension on it then he made his own extended op rod, gas block and maybe plug. I believe he's posted about it on this thread. I believe he also has 220gr subsonic working from the factory barrel after opening some of the ports in the factory plug. MDR 2.0.... I am still banking on DT releasing an 18" variant with an extended gas system... |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 12:02:33 AM EDT
[#35]
You can go back in this thread but I think I started calling for that around October 2017
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Posted: 12/11/2019 1:14:10 PM EDT
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If only I could put that Ambi Forward extraction on other bull pups
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Posted: 12/11/2019 1:39:10 PM EDT
[#37]
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If only I could put that Ambi Forward extraction on other bull pups |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 1:49:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Or a rfb....
That system actually worked pretty well from my experience. |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 2:55:57 PM EDT
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Or a rfb.... That system actually worked pretty well from my experience. |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 3:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the downwards ejection, seems like a smart concept. |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 3:05:47 PM EDT
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You can go back in this thread but I think I started calling for that around October 2017 I'd take a RFB over a MDR. |
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Posted: 12/11/2019 3:08:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: Yeah, like on a FS2000 or something....... Quoted:
Or a rfb.... That system actually worked pretty well from my experience. 
Originally Posted: 11/1/2016 9:24:08 PM MST By rsolomon:
Come over to the "dark side" - the RFB is a very nice bullpup IMO.... and you can mostly likely be shooting one this weekend or next. Not to mention the bugs are worked out of them already....  Folks who got in on the Kel-Tec Black Friday sales will be sitting pretty!
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Posted: 12/11/2019 3:22:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Operator error double-tap
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Posted: 12/11/2019 11:08:11 PM EDT
[#44]
RFB is a winner.
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Posted: 1/9/2020 5:56:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2020 6:21:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryI don't even remember how many years ago I called there being an MDR Gen 2, but I guess I *DID* get the name of it wrong
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Posted: 1/9/2020 11:05:51 PM EDT
[#47]
I hope they don't screw over first gen owners with a stupidly expensive means of updating theirs.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 2:19:17 AM EDT
[#48]
Frankly, I'm amazed how insulting this is to every single MDR owner.
 Desert Tech New Products for 2020 | Desert Tech For shame, DT. For shame. |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 8:56:40 AM EDT
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Can't recall another product where the eXtreme!! edition is simply one that works. Probably. Maybe. And eliminates key features.
'Introducing Yugo eXtreme! Now drives! Plastic of arm resting device much eXtreme for most comfort! Most brave and smart customer say nyet! to fuel injection of poor and untrustworthy morals, choose carburetor of strong character!' |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 9:34:38 AM EDT
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@CowboyWubWub seems like it's time for a new title!
"2020 Hindsight, Shoulda Waited for the MDR Gen2, errr, MDRX" "2020 - New Year, Same Gun - Almost" "2020 DT Promises to Announce and Ship in the Same Decade" "New Decade, Same Promises" |
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