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9/2/2014 4:42:05 PM EDT
I have an Aimpoint pro mounted on my Tavor. If I were to move it up the rail  8" or 10" will it still be zeroed?  I'm thinking of putting it in front of a night vision monocular.
9/2/2014 5:00:09 PM EDT
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Nope. If you move it forward or backward, it'll no longer be zeroed. Just like an AR. You'll have to adjust elevation for sure. Windage might be okay.
9/2/2014 5:58:47 PM EDT
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Really?
Why?

How can moving the aimpoint forward effect POI?

Weight forward maybe effecting muzzle rise?
9/2/2014 6:08:44 PM EDT
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If the axis of the rail was perfectly aligned with the bore, you wouldn't need to make a sight adjustment.

But, thousandths of a inch of  at the rifle translate to inches off at 50 yards, so, in practice, rezero after making a change.

AJ
9/2/2014 6:13:28 PM EDT
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It effects point of impact in reference to the optic. It's not going to make the gun itself shoot lower or higher, but your different relation to the optic and how the elevation was set on said optic will change.
9/2/2014 6:25:04 PM EDT
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Really?Why?

How can moving the aimpoint forward effect POI?

Weight forward maybe effecting muzzle rise?





It effects point of impact in reference to the optic. It's not going to make the gun itself shoot lower or higher, but your different relation to the optic and how the elevation was set on said optic will change.
Dang, I really don't like these answers.  Do you think reality will be different if I ask again?  
Hey guys, moving my optic forward on my Tavor rail won't change the zero, right?  



 
9/2/2014 6:32:08 PM EDT
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Dang, I really don't like these answers.  Do you think reality will be different if I ask again?  



Hey guys, moving my optic forward on my Tavor rail won't change the zero, right?  
 
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It effects point of impact in reference to the optic. It's not going to make the gun itself shoot lower or higher, but your different relation to the optic and how the elevation was set on said optic will change.
Dang, I really don't like these answers.  Do you think reality will be different if I ask again?  



Hey guys, moving my optic forward on my Tavor rail won't change the zero, right?  
 


I really like my Tavor with an IR laser when using night vision. Makes a very compact little package that works great!
9/2/2014 7:02:18 PM EDT
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It's to do with Trigonometry...but yes rest assured moving your optic forward will change the POI because you are essentially create a different angle from the optic to the muzzle to the target than you had before. I'd draw a diagram but well i'm too lazy to.
9/4/2014 10:53:49 AM EDT
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Yes,
I just moved a scope on my 716 back three notches, Like 2" maybe.
Now at 100 yards it was now a foot high and 5 inches to the right, this was a Larue mount BTW.
On another rifle I simply tightened down the latch on a Burris PEPR QD mount ant this shifted the POI  a couple of inches, scope mounts can be very sensitive.
9/4/2014 1:31:10 PM EDT
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Oddly enough, I have moved my Aimpoint T-1 on a LaRue LT660 from one weapon to another and have not been off by inches... I will say that YMMV however.
9/4/2014 7:35:47 PM EDT
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Pick a spot.
Zero it.
Leave it alone and remember where it goes if you have to take it off.

-- Chuck
9/4/2014 8:26:48 PM EDT
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Pick a spot.

Zero it.

Leave it alone and remember where it goes if you have to take it off.



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So I should keep it way forward so in the event I want to use the night vision it's already there?

 
9/4/2014 8:30:21 PM EDT
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So I should keep it way forward so in the event I want to use the night vision it's already there?  


Doesn't hurt with a red dot. One of the reasons AR's built with that in mind push their optics as forward as possible with cantilever and the like to open up railspace behind for a magnifier/pvs14.
9/4/2014 8:44:26 PM EDT
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So I should keep it way forward so in the event I want to use the night vision it's already there?  


This is what I do and it works great with RDS for me.  Everyone is different, but I like to push any optics that I use with both eyes open far forward.  And yes, moving them front to back definitely causes the POI to change.  One notch I hardly ever notice a difference with a RDS at 75yds, but 8" will almost certainly change your POI at 100yds.
9/4/2014 8:50:44 PM EDT
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Co-witness it and then re zero the dots to your Iron sights after moving the dot.
9/5/2014 6:22:34 AM EDT
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I prefer my dot sights as far forward as the rail allows.  Makes picking up the dot easier as well as transitioning from target to target.  I don't "look thru" a dot sight, I just see the dot in my field of vision with both eyes open.

If you're not shooting with both eyes open you're missing a lot of target awareness. Try closing or taping over the front cover.  Yep the dot is still out there -- if you have both eyes open.

-- Chuck



9/5/2014 7:05:34 AM EDT
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I prefer my dot sights as far forward as the rail allows.  Makes picking up the dot easier as well as transitioning from target to target.  I don't "look thru" a dot sight, I just see the dot in my field of vision with both eyes open.

If you're not shooting with both eyes open you're missing a lot of target awareness. Try closing or taping over the front cover.  Yep the dot is still out there -- if you have both eyes open.

-- Chuck
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Textbook example of how to mount and use a reddot.
If you're not doing it as described above, you're doing it wrong.
9/5/2014 7:06:51 AM EDT
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Which may not work out well due to the dot not moving any visibly appreciable distance.
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