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Posted: 4/21/2014 3:28:41 PM EDT
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http://magpul.com/pmag25lr_shipping.html
I don't see a need for these especially with aug mags still under 17.00 at manventure on Facebook they said they would be around 19.99 |
| More mags is never a bad thing. I thought they were crazy for trying to jump into the AK market with surplus AK mags being super cheap and arguably the best mags in the world, but they seem to be selling pretty well. Ive noticed that AR owners who happen to have an AK or in this case an AUG will buy them based on the name alone. |
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Quoted: Thank God they applied their 'constant-curve internal geometry for smooth feeding' technology and a window to see your round count. What will they think of next, 42 round mags? Finally someone to bring AUG mags into the 21st century.  ETA dont forget the paint pen dot matrix game changa! |
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http://magpul.com/pmag25lr_shipping.html I don't see a need for these especially with aug mags still under 17.00 at manventure on Facebook they said they would be around 19.99 Magpul's polymer is a little bit stronger and resistant to chemicals that AUG mags. However, the AUG mag has always made up for this in thickness. That said, I will buy some when they come out. I'll continue to buy regular AUG mags until then. Oh, and it's a very good thing since AUG mags are imported. These will be made here. 
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In a recent thread in GD, magpul came in and basically wrote that their polymer is the only thing better than the AUG mag due to chemical resistance. <<don't quote me, but that is basically what I got out of their reply
I am perfectly content with the AUG mags, but also understand that a pmag for the AUG is good for all of us. Hence I welcome it. Thanks magpul! |
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In a recent thread in GD, magpul came in and basically wrote that their polymer is the only thing better than the AUG mag due to chemical resistance. <<don't quote me, but that is basically what I got out of their reply I am perfectly content with the AUG mags, but also understand that a pmag for the AUG is good for all of us. Hence I welcome it. Thanks magpul! I think the Magpul mag has a better polymer resin composition, but since the mag isn't near as thick as an AUG mag is, they cant be as strong. That said, if Magpul made their mag at the same thickness, then we could really talk about a near indestructible mag. |
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I think the Magpul mag has a better polymer resin composition, but since the mag isn't near as thick as an AUG mag is, they cant be as strong. That said, if Magpul made their mag at the same thickness, then we could really talk about a near indestructible mag. Quoted:
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In a recent thread in GD, magpul came in and basically wrote that their polymer is the only thing better than the AUG mag due to chemical resistance. <<don't quote me, but that is basically what I got out of their reply I am perfectly content with the AUG mags, but also understand that a pmag for the AUG is good for all of us. Hence I welcome it. Thanks magpul! I think the Magpul mag has a better polymer resin composition, but since the mag isn't near as thick as an AUG mag is, they cant be as strong. That said, if Magpul made their mag at the same thickness, then we could really talk about a near indestructible mag. OEM AUG mags are incredible for 70's technology. The modern glass-impregnated polymer is head and shoulders above those in terms of strength. |
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OEM AUG mags aren't that thick. The ribs help out quite a bit, and the feed lips are definitely thicker than an AR mag. Magpul has been able to work within the same envelope and with the modern polymers made a mag that should be stronger even than the AR PMAG. I'm surprised that it's taken 30 years for an aftermarket company to take on the AUG. Hard to improve on such a great platform though. Transparent 42rd mags, VFG's, factory optic sights, off-hand hooks, short stroke pistons... AUG was doing all of this decades before the AR world. |
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The face was my placeholder.
OEM AUG mags aren't that thick. The ribs help out quite a bit, and the feed lips are definitely thicker than an AR mag. Magpul has been able to work within the same envelope and with the modern polymers made a mag that should be stronger even than the AR PMAG. I'm surprised that it's taken 30 years for an aftermarket company to take on the AUG. Hard to improve on such a great platform though. Transparent 42rd mags, VFG's, factory optic sights, off-hand hooks, short stroke pistons... AUG was doing all of this decades before the AR world. Quoted:
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Care to elaborate instead of making faces? The face was my placeholder.
OEM AUG mags aren't that thick. The ribs help out quite a bit, and the feed lips are definitely thicker than an AR mag. Magpul has been able to work within the same envelope and with the modern polymers made a mag that should be stronger even than the AR PMAG. I'm surprised that it's taken 30 years for an aftermarket company to take on the AUG. Hard to improve on such a great platform though. Transparent 42rd mags, VFG's, factory optic sights, off-hand hooks, short stroke pistons... AUG was doing all of this decades before the AR world. Maybe the market was slow to come up with an alternative because AUG's are a niche weapon? I love bullpups but they are rare on the range compared to AR's. Plus some AUG's use NATO std. magazines. |
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Maybe the market was slow to come up with an alternative because AUG's are a niche weapon? I love bullpups but they are rare on the range compared to AR's. Plus some AUG's use NATO std. magazines. Quoted:
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Care to elaborate instead of making faces? The face was my placeholder.
OEM AUG mags aren't that thick. The ribs help out quite a bit, and the feed lips are definitely thicker than an AR mag. Magpul has been able to work within the same envelope and with the modern polymers made a mag that should be stronger even than the AR PMAG. I'm surprised that it's taken 30 years for an aftermarket company to take on the AUG. Hard to improve on such a great platform though. Transparent 42rd mags, VFG's, factory optic sights, off-hand hooks, short stroke pistons... AUG was doing all of this decades before the AR world. Maybe the market was slow to come up with an alternative because AUG's are a niche weapon? I love bullpups but they are rare on the range compared to AR's. Plus some AUG's use NATO std. magazines. These were developed by Magpul at the request of the Australian military. I can't imagine that the AUG market would be big enough on its own to justify the cost of tooling, but the US AUG folks can now benefit from this. I might have to buy an AUG again as soon as the A3 M1's are available. PETE!!!!
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Quoted: These were developed by Magpul at the request of the Australian military. I can't imagine that the AUG market would be big enough on its own to justify the cost of tooling, but the US AUG folks can now benefit from this. I might have to buy an AUG again as soon as the A3 M1's are available. PETE!!!! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Care to elaborate instead of making faces? The face was my placeholder. OEM AUG mags aren't that thick. The ribs help out quite a bit, and the feed lips are definitely thicker than an AR mag. Magpul has been able to work within the same envelope and with the modern polymers made a mag that should be stronger even than the AR PMAG. I'm surprised that it's taken 30 years for an aftermarket company to take on the AUG. Hard to improve on such a great platform though. Transparent 42rd mags, VFG's, factory optic sights, off-hand hooks, short stroke pistons... AUG was doing all of this decades before the AR world. Maybe the market was slow to come up with an alternative because AUG's are a niche weapon? I love bullpups but they are rare on the range compared to AR's. Plus some AUG's use NATO std. magazines. These were developed by Magpul at the request of the Australian military. I can't imagine that the AUG market would be big enough on its own to justify the cost of tooling, but the US AUG folks can now benefit from this. I might have to buy an AUG again as soon as the A3 M1's are available. PETE!!!! i'd be curious to know what issues the Australians were having with the Steyr mags that they requested an AUG design from Magpul. i've never heard of any complaints other than they dont fit in AR mag pouches (which they were never meant to). it's pretty amazing to think that AR polymer mags just recently got to the level of Steyr AUG mags that are pretty much unchanged from 40 years ago |
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it's pretty amazing to think that AR polymer mags just recently got to the level of Steyr AUG mags that are pretty much unchanged from 40 years ago That is arguable at best. Even so Lancer seems to be at the top of the game with a steel insert solution, technically not a true polymer magazine. |
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Quoted: That is arguable at best. Even so Lancer seems to be at the top of the game with a steel insert solution, technically not a true polymer magazine. Quoted: Quoted: it's pretty amazing to think that AR polymer mags just recently got to the level of Steyr AUG mags that are pretty much unchanged from 40 years ago That is arguable at best. Even so Lancer seems to be at the top of the game with a steel insert solution, technically not a true polymer magazine. it still took 30-40 years for AR polymer mags to catch up to what Steyr was doing in 1972 |
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it still took 30-40 years for AR polymer mags to catch up to what Steyr was doing in 1972 Quoted:
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it's pretty amazing to think that AR polymer mags just recently got to the level of Steyr AUG mags that are pretty much unchanged from 40 years ago That is arguable at best. Even so Lancer seems to be at the top of the game with a steel insert solution, technically not a true polymer magazine. it still took 30-40 years for AR polymer mags to catch up to what Steyr was doing in 1972 Yup. Bloody Austrians always doing cool stuff with polymer.
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| I wonder if it's mainly to try and get a mil contract don't the brits already use emags? And if the french buy AUGs then them and the aussies could make a nice little mag contract. Hell plus if Wiki is right the brits made their last rifle in 94 so maybe magpul is looking ahead to them potentially buying AUGs as well. |
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I wonder if this is a prelude to Thales selling their AUG variant in the US market?
This mag would count for 3 US made parts. As for why the Australian military would want Magpul to make mags, I am wondering if local mag manufacture was discontinued? Australia made it's own AUG mags. I'm also wondering if the clear AUG mag was easy for opponents to pick out in the field? Mick |
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I wonder if this is a prelude to Thales selling their AUG variant in the US market? This seems hugely unlikely to me. Thales is going to be a lot more worried about trying to win the French FAMAS replacement contract, competing for the NZ contract, and doing the EF88/F90 upgrades for the Australian army. Competing with Steyr on the American market to sell a few thousand rifles doesn't sound like much ROI compared to those activities. This is probably exactly what it seems: a contract from the Aussies or Austrians for some new mags, and we just happen to be getting them in the bargain. |
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Thales is a FRENCH company and if they want to make money on the US civilian market, they will direct the Australians to do exactly that.
As for competing with Steyr, they would more likely do it as a joint venture. Note that I am speculating, and I agree that the odds of an F90 variant here in the US are slim at best. The real question is WHY did the Australian military feel the need for a new mag? What is it that the new mag can do better than the current one? Better materials? Improved feeding? No top round poppage when slamming a full mag in? Mick Quoted:
This seems hugely unlikely to me. Thales is going to be a lot more worried about trying to win the French FAMAS replacement contract, competing for the NZ contract, and doing the EF88/F90 upgrades for the Australian army. Competing with Steyr on the American market to sell a few thousand rifles doesn't sound like much ROI compared to those activities. This is probably exactly what it seems: a contract from the Aussies or Austrians for some new mags, and we just happen to be getting them in the bargain. Quoted:
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I wonder if this is a prelude to Thales selling their AUG variant in the US market? This seems hugely unlikely to me. Thales is going to be a lot more worried about trying to win the French FAMAS replacement contract, competing for the NZ contract, and doing the EF88/F90 upgrades for the Australian army. Competing with Steyr on the American market to sell a few thousand rifles doesn't sound like much ROI compared to those activities. This is probably exactly what it seems: a contract from the Aussies or Austrians for some new mags, and we just happen to be getting them in the bargain. |
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Saudi and Malays use AUG??? Did not know. It's their regular service rifle? Quoted:
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For all we know, Saudi Arabia wants 700,00, and Malaysia wants 200,000, etc. May not even involve the roos. Yup and Oman, and Tunisa. Look at pics of the the early arab spring in tunisa and you will see tunisan troops carrying around old beat to shit aug a1s with dam near no finish left. AUG's are definitly third world especially middle east approved. |
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The real question is WHY did the Australian military feel the need for a new mag? What is it that the new mag can do better than the current one? Better materials? Improved feeding? No top round poppage when slamming a full mag in? Again, you're probably overthinking this. Magazines are consumables and wear out with time. The military in question probably put out an RFP for new mags to replace worn-out old ones, and Magpul won the contract. They may not do anything better than the old ones... except for price. |
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AUG mags work fine in my later STG model MSAR. So if you have a later model the Magpul mags should work. Quoted:
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What are the odds these might work in an MSAR? Read different threads where some Aug mags would and others not so much. Anyone tried one? Thanks AUG mags work fine in my later STG model MSAR. So if you have a later model the Magpul mags should work. what about the early gen. MSARs? |
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What are the odds these might work in an MSAR? Read different threads where some Aug mags would and others not so much. Anyone tried one? Thanks AUG mags work fine in my later STG model MSAR. So if you have a later model the Magpul mags should work. what about the early gen. MSARs? Early STG's had thicker ribs inside the magwell so that only MSAR mags would fit. They did away with the ribs after everyone started squawking, but the geometries are still slightly different. I could get MSAR mags to work in my AUG and vice-versa, but some had to have a little sanding done to a bump or rib here and there with some mags. Not optimum. |
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Early STG's had thicker ribs inside the magwell so that only MSAR mags would fit. They did away with the ribs after everyone started squawking, but the geometries are still slightly different. I could get MSAR mags to work in my AUG and vice-versa, but some had to have a little sanding done to a bump or rib here and there with some mags. Not optimum. Quoted:
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What are the odds these might work in an MSAR? Read different threads where some Aug mags would and others not so much. Anyone tried one? Thanks AUG mags work fine in my later STG model MSAR. So if you have a later model the Magpul mags should work. what about the early gen. MSARs? Early STG's had thicker ribs inside the magwell so that only MSAR mags would fit. They did away with the ribs after everyone started squawking, but the geometries are still slightly different. I could get MSAR mags to work in my AUG and vice-versa, but some had to have a little sanding done to a bump or rib here and there with some mags. Not optimum. good to know ill look into it and do that! THANKS |
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