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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Interested in getting a FAMAS (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/11/2012 5:04:50 AM EDT
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Hey, I don't know if this is the right forum.
My current dream is to own my own mil-spec FAMAS F1. Anyone know if this is possible? Do they sell them in the U.S.? Thanks |
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They did for awhile, but from what I recall, there are VERY few of them, and they are VERY expensive.
I found the thread I was thinking about, but you can't view it because it is archived. A member here owns one, and he commented that $10,500 wasn't a bad price for a FAMAS. Here is the thread, for the team members: FAMAS for sale on Sturm |
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$10,500 for a FAMAS?
That is expensive. I will have to wait a few months before I can afford one. I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together. Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS? I mean I understand that they are difficult to come by considering the French govt doesn't really sell out its rifle. There has to be some way. Maybe I should contact MAS, the French Arms Manufacturer once I rebuild my finances? |
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I don't know why people think it is ugly.
I think it has a nice look to it. It is also very compact, and I like that. From the videos I've seen of Legionnaires handling it, it seems very easy to handle, and seems well balanced. Seems like a perfect tool for both urban warfare, and warfare in more open spaces. |
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$10,500 for a FAMAS? That is expensive. I will have to wait a few months before I can afford one. I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together. Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS? I mean I understand that they are difficult to come by considering the French govt doesn't really sell out its rifle. There has to be some way. Maybe I should contact MAS, the French Arms Manufacturer once I rebuild my finances? A full auto version couldn't be imported for normal civvies. And I don't know if any semi-autos were ever imported. Did anyone ever make a .22LR version? And were parts kits ever imported? I like the look of the FAMAS but I have never seen a economic way to get one. |
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$10,500 for a FAMAS? That is expensive. I will have to wait a few months before I can afford one. I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together. Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS? I mean I understand that they are difficult to come by considering the French govt doesn't really sell out its rifle. There has to be some way. Maybe I should contact MAS, the French Arms Manufacturer once I rebuild my finances? They are no longer imported, and like I said, they are VERY rare. The last one I saw was listed on Sturmgewehr.com. I would troll the NFA boards. You'll have to get the money together and wait until one comes up for sale. I would save up more than $10,500 as well, so you are prepared if it costs more. The market is so small that more than likely it will come to market for whatever the seller thinks he can get for it. I think there was a .22lr version made at one point, but I can't remember who was importing it. ETA) Apparently the 25 round mags are extremely expensive as well, something like $150-200 apiece. |
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Not to "pee on anyone's parade" but I have fired the real one in semi auto and I was not impressed.
I own a FS2000 and a Steyr AUG A3, you would be MUCH better off in my opinion with either of these two platforms for multiple reasons. 1. Cost-the semi's were imported by Century Arms in 1989 for $1,000 (about 100-125 that's IT). Now they sell for $8.5K-10K. If you REALLY want to spend that on a semi auto buy you a SIG 550/551 and have one of the nicest firearms ever built, period, and you can get mags for it and parts, but you will never need any parts more than likely. 2. Mags, there are many many Steyr AUG mags in the country and priced reasonable, the FS2K takes AR mags. FAMAS as stated takes proprietary mags and they are rare and expensive. 3. Optics mounting capability-the AUG A3 and FS shine in this arena, the FAMAS is pretty much an open sight weapon with a very short sight radius and hard to shoot well in my opinion. 4. Spare parts-good luck on the FAMAS, there are none And you can get aftermarket trigger upgrades for AUG and FS2K and both platforms are pretty accurate, my AUG a tad more accurate. Hell for 10K you could buy a Pre-Ban AUG, a FS2K, and an AUG A3 and ammo and shoot the hell out of all the bullpups and enjoy without worries. |
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I did a little digging, and the 22LR gun I was thinking of was made by Jager, and it was a clone.
Thread for members: Jager FAMAS Clone |
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Century Arms imported a semi auto version of the FAMAS called the MAS .223 in the 80's, I think they went for around $1,325.00 new or so. Sales were poor and they abandoned it. I think maybe 180 or so made it into the USA (seems like I recall hearing that from someone).
They are rare. Their magazines are rare. Larry Vickers has one and apparently he had to wait for a long time for one to go up for sale. Basically they come up for sale when collectors die. Last one I saw for sale was through an estate that was selling off a very impressive collection that included a FAMAS. SA-80 and the SAR-21 are more rare, but FAMAS is pretty rare. Definitely harder to find than AUGs. |
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I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a civilian semi-auto FAMAS. I would rather spend the time and money to get a true mil-spec FAMAS. If you find a legal way to pull that off short of joining the Foreign Legion please let us know. As far as I know GIAT will no longer allow export of their military arms to the U.S., at least not for civilian resale. The French government would also have a direct say in exportation of military arms from outside of their borders. Honestly it might be cheaper to have someone manufacture a U.S. made clone in small numbers. But from the very, very limited experience I have handling one the allure of owning one is a lot stronger than the actual practicality of the ergonomics and handling. |
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I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a civilian semi-auto FAMAS. I would rather spend the time and money to get a true mil-spec FAMAS. That's impossible unless you became a legally recognized one man law enforcement organization, and managed to talk the french government into selling you a single one. I think there is a better chance of Obama becoming a die hard conservative than you getting a mil spec FAMAS. Also your in MD max mag capacity is 20 rounds unless something has changed in the past few years since I checked out a gun shop next door to the tattoo shop I was getting inked at so you would have to butcher the 25 round mags for a semi as well. If you're into bullpups as others have suggested try out one of those, I know I love my MSAR almost as much as my PTR91. Now if only I could get them to breed and make something that was a cross between both of them that would be awesome  .
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I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a civilian semi-auto FAMAS. I would rather spend the time and money to get a true mil-spec FAMAS. If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun. |
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I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a civilian semi-auto FAMAS. I would rather spend the time and money to get a true mil-spec FAMAS. If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun. Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name? Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion. |
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Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. Why? Were you planning on taking a ridiculously expensive rifle with no spares or mags into a combat zone for fun? Your posts in this thread lead me to believe you don't really have a grasp on the realities of the market or it's laws. By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name?
Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion. I don't think this is the place to critique his handle, save that for IM or GD |
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I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a civilian semi-auto FAMAS. I would rather spend the time and money to get a true mil-spec FAMAS. If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun. Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. first of all any decent ar or in the case of bullpups an aug is just as "combat ready" as the f/a counterparts. By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name? Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion. second get off your soap box  about his name. you really think he runs around breaking into homes?
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Hey, I don't know if this is the right forum. My current dream is to own my own mil-spec FAMAS F1. Anyone know if this is possible? Do they sell them in the U.S.? Thanks I know someone who actually owns one. The older Famas had problem transitioning from older 55gr M193 to 62gr SS109 ammunition. The newer G2 version has corrected the ammo problem. The new FELIN program(French version of Land Warrior) is an upgraded G2. AUG A3 is a much more reliable and a modular, as well as a more flexible system, able to function with wider range of ammunition. With AUG, you can change the upper and quickly change the barrel length. With A2/A3, mount the optic of your choice. With NATO stock/trigger pack option, switch mag from AUG to NATO mag. Mount light/laser/etc. of your choice to your heart's desire. No problem functioning with wide range of commercial and milspec ammo, old or new, unlike many other bullpup like FN F2000 or FAMAS. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/26/are-the-french-dumping-the-famas/ http://secretdefense.blogs.liberation.fr/defense/2009/09/larm%C3%A9e-a-de-s%C3%A9rieuses-difficult%C3%A9s-avec-les-munitions-du-fusil-famas.html |
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I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle not sure of that. It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector. |
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I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle not sure of that. It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector. It doesn't look that way from his responses: Quoted:
I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. |
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I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle not sure of that. It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector. Nah, I think he just got the hots for a FAMAS, and didn't realize they're unobtainium. |
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I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle not sure of that. It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector. It doesn't look that way from his responses: Quoted:
I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. this and op sounds like he has no idea what hes talking about, wanting a rifle not for looks or fun but for combat? isnt that all a famas is, looks and fun? if he wants combat experience why not buy an ak or an ar? |
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I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design. I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. this and op sounds like he has no idea what hes talking about, wanting a rifle not for looks or fun but for combat? isnt that all a famas is, looks and fun? if he wants combat experience why not buy an ak or an ar? Neither will buying either of those rifles you have to join the military in a combat MOS for that 
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You purchase a FAMAS and you charish that sucker, you keep it clean and only shoot it on special range trips. Rifles that rare are bigger than their owners you're preserving that rifle for future generations of Americans. You don't buy a FAMAS and run it hard like an AR. That would be like using a Lugar .45 for a concealed carry piece.  Insane.
People are critical of "safe queens," but I think that only applies to weapons that aren't insanely crazy rare. In the case of the FAMAS it is a safe queen and rightfully so. That's a highly sought after collection piece that collectors of black rifles out there wait for years to get their hands on and pay through the nose for. You've got to respect it. Just being able to fire one is a treat few Americans can say they've been able to do in their life times. |
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I do agree with your post my friend.
My friend took his FAMAS out exactly ONE time and I got to shoot a mag through it, my main complaint was lack of mounting surfaces for an optic and the really short sight radius that made my eyes hurt trying to focus on the front sight. He sold it for a full auto fix he will never cure, so it was a rare treat indeed. I have 2 IMI Galils in 5.56 (AR and ARM) and a 16" Howco FN-FNC I only take out on special occaisions, so I know what it feels like to have a piece of history I plan on passing down to my boys 
Now if i could convince the wife I NEED more pre-bans that would be another story.... And if they would stop talking about the TAVOR cause I GOTS to have me one of those 
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I do agree with your post my friend. My friend took his FAMAS out exactly ONE time and I got to shoot a mag through it, my main complaint was lack of mounting surfaces for an optic and the really short sight radius that made my eyes hurt trying to focus on the front sight. IIRC, there was an original FAMAS optics mount that sold on GB not too long ago, so they do exist. The carry handle height probably doesn't lend itself to a good cheek weld when using such an mount though. |
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I do agree with your post my friend. My friend took his FAMAS out exactly ONE time and I got to shoot a mag through it, my main complaint was lack of mounting surfaces for an optic and the really short sight radius that made my eyes hurt trying to focus on the front sight. He sold it for a full auto fix he will never cure, so it was a rare treat indeed. I have 2 IMI Galils in 5.56 (AR and ARM) and a 16" Howco FN-FNC I only take out on special occaisions, so I know what it feels like to have a piece of history I plan on passing down to my boys
Now if i could convince the wife I NEED more pre-bans that would be another story.... And if they would stop talking about the TAVOR cause I GOTS to have me one of those Nice. Yeah, I mean I think for most of us there is that point where you move to a "collector" as well as a shooter. I mean it's like having your pickup truck you beat the crap out of and keeping a nice sports car in the garage for nice summer drives. It's when you move from the initial stages of black rifle disease to the full blown case of black rifle disease. It gets expensive, but to me these little machines are art and history all rolled into one. I'd LOVE to get a FAMAS and when I retire maybe I'll make one as a retirement gift for myself.
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You probably can't get a FAMAS, but there's always the Norinco 86s. It's an AK bullpup, but has a design similar to the FAMAS. It's also a lot cheaper, between $1,000 - 2,400, depending on the condition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco_Type_86S http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/type86s.htm They show up occasionally on Gunbroker. ETA: here's one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=281572736 |
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Yes, I understand that the FAMAS is rare.
I have read and saw a bit said about its compact design, balance, and ergonomics as well as decent accuracy. All those features make it a big plus for me. I know that the AR and AK both have loads of real world experience, the FAMAS does have a great deal as well. I have an AR in M16A2 format. It is a great general assault rifle. It's 39.61 inch length is very problomatic indoors. Especially with a bayonet attached. |
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Check out the aug its short like the Famas but available and it has a nice pic rail on the a3 and MSAR clones so you can put whatever sight you want on it. The only problem I could see is if you don't have a nato stock on it you have to find 20round mags to comply with MD law The fs2000 would get around that easily too as it takes ar mags. Or wait for the tavor that would also use the same mags as your ar.
As for bayonets they don't even issue them for the most part anymore because they aren't used, are expensive and get broken a lot. If i had to stab someone Id rather do it with the knife in my hand also since the verticle orientation of most bayonets means they can get stuck in between the ribs plus then your rifle is stuck in the person your stabbing till you manage to get them off. If you read about WWI soldiers were there was a lot of hand to hand the guys built their own medieval style maces and used their shovels a lot over the bayonet. I think the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18" unless you get a stamp and I have no clue if MD is even a NFA state since it's kind of in love with liberal bs rules like the blue sirens on the buildings in the more ghetto parts of Baltimore (the whole city is a ghetto) that go off to tell the criminals the cops are on the way. If you're getting one for indoor use I'd skip the whole m4 thing then what role would it fill that your a2 couldn't? Lastly I'd get the glock over the m9. I wasn't a fan of the glocks bulkiness till I started police academy and put a couple thousand rounds through a glock 21sf I had a grand total of one malfunction a simple to clear double feed. The range staff there has dealt with multiple agencies and their weapons in bulk that are commonly mistreated. The glocks hold up and are accurate and simple. While they liked the berettas too they said that when they have a class running those in the combat drills at least one would break every time to me that's unacceptable, plus my last year in the army I worked with a bunch of marines from 8th and I in DC and while they liked their berettas one time at the range they had one where the slide came completely off the gun upon firing and if the poor devil dog hadn't been wearing a helmet he would of gotten messed up. by it. |
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Check out the aug its short like the Famas but available and it has a nice pic rail on the a3 and MSAR clones so you can put whatever sight you want on it. The only problem I could see is if you don't have a nato stock on it you have to find 20round mags to comply with MD law The fs2000 would get around that easily too as it takes ar mags. Or wait for the tavor that would also use the same mags as your ar. As for bayonets they don't even issue them for the most part anymore because they aren't used, are expensive and get broken a lot. If i had to stab someone Id rather do it with the knife in my hand also since the verticle orientation of most bayonets means they can get stuck in between the ribs plus then your rifle is stuck in the person your stabbing till you manage to get them off. If you read about WWI soldiers were there was a lot of hand to hand the guys built their own medieval style maces and used their shovels a lot over the bayonet. I think the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18" unless you get a stamp and I have no clue if MD is even a NFA state since it's kind of in love with liberal bs rules like the blue sirens on the buildings in the more ghetto parts of Baltimore (the whole city is a ghetto) that go off to tell the criminals the cops are on the way. If you're getting one for indoor use I'd skip the whole m4 thing then what role would it fill that your a2 couldn't? Lastly I'd get the glock over the m9. I wasn't a fan of the glocks bulkiness till I started police academy and put a couple thousand rounds through a glock 21sf I had a grand total of one malfunction a simple to clear double feed. The range staff there has dealt with multiple agencies and their weapons in bulk that are commonly mistreated. The glocks hold up and are accurate and simple. While they liked the berettas too they said that when they have a class running those in the combat drills at least one would break every time to me that's unacceptable, plus my last year in the army I worked with a bunch of marines from 8th and I in DC and while they liked their berettas one time at the range they had one where the slide came completely off the gun upon firing and if the poor devil dog hadn't been wearing a helmet he would of gotten messed up. by it. Yeah, 8th and I. The pretty boy Marines. Lol. I will say, at least they are 0311 "qualified" though. Lol. I'm probably gonna get the Mossberg 500 barrel and magazine out of state and swap it out later. I can legally own and possess 30 round AR15 mags in MD, I just cannot purchase them within the state. I can legally go out of state to buy them which is what I normally do. I've never seen an AUG with iron sights, which is actually what I prefer. I've actually had optics fog up on me during training in the woods or swamps. I do understand the value of a combat optic such as the ACOG. It can really help you pick out targets at range. My personal philosophy is, in combat, if the target is too far away to hit with iron sights, you really don't need to start shooting at it. There are exceptions of course. There are not many threats around here that can or are willing to engage me past 400 Meters, at least accurately enough for me to need an RCO. And I have very sharp vision. I'm keeping my options open for now. We'll see. |
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of wanting a FAMAS for real world use... I'm just doing research right now. I am not about to go out and buy one on Amazon.com today if that's what you're thinking. Worst case scenario.. I finally find and buy myself a very expensive and rare FAMAS after doing months of research. I train with it. I find that my AR-15s are better suited for the job. My expensive multi thousand dollar FAMAS becomes a cool decorative item and conversation piece in my den or living room. Not a bad deal in my opinion. |
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Check out the aug its short like the Famas but available and it has a nice pic rail on the a3 and MSAR clones so you can put whatever sight you want on it. The only problem I could see is if you don't have a nato stock on it you have to find 20round mags to comply with MD law The fs2000 would get around that easily too as it takes ar mags. Or wait for the tavor that would also use the same mags as your ar. As for bayonets they don't even issue them for the most part anymore because they aren't used, are expensive and get broken a lot. If i had to stab someone Id rather do it with the knife in my hand also since the verticle orientation of most bayonets means they can get stuck in between the ribs plus then your rifle is stuck in the person your stabbing till you manage to get them off. If you read about WWI soldiers were there was a lot of hand to hand the guys built their own medieval style maces and used their shovels a lot over the bayonet. I think the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18" unless you get a stamp and I have no clue if MD is even a NFA state since it's kind of in love with liberal bs rules like the blue sirens on the buildings in the more ghetto parts of Baltimore (the whole city is a ghetto) that go off to tell the criminals the cops are on the way. If you're getting one for indoor use I'd skip the whole m4 thing then what role would it fill that your a2 couldn't? Lastly I'd get the glock over the m9. I wasn't a fan of the glocks bulkiness till I started police academy and put a couple thousand rounds through a glock 21sf I had a grand total of one malfunction a simple to clear double feed. The range staff there has dealt with multiple agencies and their weapons in bulk that are commonly mistreated. The glocks hold up and are accurate and simple. While they liked the berettas too they said that when they have a class running those in the combat drills at least one would break every time to me that's unacceptable, plus my last year in the army I worked with a bunch of marines from 8th and I in DC and while they liked their berettas one time at the range they had one where the slide came completely off the gun upon firing and if the poor devil dog hadn't been wearing a helmet he would of gotten messed up. by it. Yeah, 8th and I. The pretty boy Marines. Lol. I will say, at least they are 0311 "qualified" though. Lol. I'm probably gonna get the Mossberg 500 barrel and magazine out of state and swap it out later. I can legally own and possess 30 round AR15 mags in MD, I just cannot purchase them within the state. I can legally go out of state to buy them which is what I normally do. I've never seen an AUG with iron sights, which is actually what I prefer. I've actually had optics fog up on me during training in the woods or swamps. I do understand the value of a combat optic such as the ACOG. It can really help you pick out targets at range. My personal philosophy is, in combat, if the target is too far away to hit with iron sights, you really don't need to start shooting at it. There are exceptions of course. There are not many threats around here that can or are willing to engage me past 400 Meters, at least accurately enough for me to need an RCO. And I have very sharp vision. I'm keeping my options open for now. We'll see. Just so you know, you can mount irons to an AUG. I don't think they come with built in irons, but they certainly have a 1913 version that will accept them. |
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Yeah, 8th and I. The pretty boy Marines. Lol. I will say, at least they are 0311 "qualified" though. Lol. Hey now I was part of the 1/3 US Army infantry regiment as a 11b pretty much the pretty boys of the army infantry . On a serious note though my company had to bury one of its own 6 months after he re-uped for another unit because a IED got him in Afghanistan the ceremonial units aren't the draft dodgers some people like to make them out to be, and once you're sent to one pretty much the only way out is to re-up as a lot of higher up career folks have made it very hard for HR to pull them out of their to go anywhere else.
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I don't think they come with built in irons, but they certainly have a 1913 version that will accept them. The factory scope has iron sights cast into the top, IIRC. I was thinking of the ones that are naked on top except for the 1913 rail. Aren't those the ones that accept standard AR pattern mags? I thought the ones with the factory scope was the proprietary mag? I'm no expert on AUGs, as you can see. |
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I don't think they come with built in irons, but they certainly have a 1913 version that will accept them. The factory scope has iron sights cast into the top, IIRC. I was thinking of the ones that are naked on top except for the 1913 rail. Aren't those the ones that accept standard AR pattern mags? I thought the ones with the factory scope was the proprietary mag? I'm no expert on AUGs, as you can see. Even the aug A3 the one with the rails uses AUG mags you need to slap a nato stock on them to use ar mags. Unless you are talking MSAR E4's those are railed and take ar mags as is. Oh and short range optics are nice too the aimpoints (collectively called the m68 in the army) are a lot faster than irons for close range and even without a magnifier hit out to 300 yrds the farthest I've had to use one with no problems. Though personally I prefer the eotech I have on my MSAR because its reticle is a heck of a lot nicer. Now if someone made something with the eotech reticle and aimpoint battery life that would be amazing. |
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I don't think they come with built in irons, but they certainly have a 1913 version that will accept them. The factory scope has iron sights cast into the top, IIRC. I was thinking of the ones that are naked on top except for the 1913 rail. Aren't those the ones that accept standard AR pattern mags? I thought the ones with the factory scope was the proprietary mag? I'm no expert on AUGs, as you can see. Even the aug A3 the one with the rails uses AUG mags you need to slap a nato stock on them to use ar mags. Unless you are talking MSAR E4's those are railed and take ar mags as is. Oh and short range optics are nice too the aimpoints (collectively called the m68 in the army) are a lot faster than irons for close range and even without a magnifier hit out to 300 yrds the farthest I've had to use one with no problems. Though personally I prefer the eotech I have on my MSAR because its reticle is a heck of a lot nicer. Now if someone made something with the eotech reticle and aimpoint battery life that would be amazing. I see. I thought Steyr made a run of AUGs with NATO stocks. That was my problem. I thought the last batch before pulling out of the market was in NATO stocks. |
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Dunno. I've not seen very many A3s for sale. Purchased mine with the standard stock that takes Steyr mags. I bought a NATO AUG stock off of G.B. and fitted it to my A3. Had to dremel a bit of plastic off of the top, a lip at the back of the cutout for the receiver where the rail overhangs the stock. But then it fit fine. The NATO stock came with its own hammer pack too. I've not compared it with the hammer pack that came with the standard stock, so I don't know if they differ in the BHO design or in some other way. I've got a set of M.I. BUIs on my AUG A3. They work fine out to 50yds. Haven't tried any farther than that, as I prefer my ELCAN for reaching out further (1-4x version). My AUG A3 in NATO drag: http://qandr.dyndns-home.com/img/AUG/AUG_A3_L_ElCanDRC1_PMag30.jpg The BUIs are folded, but you get the idea? |
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Dunno. I've not seen very many A3s for sale. Purchased mine with the standard stock that takes Steyr mags. I bought a NATO AUG stock off of G.B. and fitted it to my A3. Had to dremel a bit of plastic off of the top, a lip at the back of the cutout for the receiver where the rail overhangs the stock. But then it fit fine. The NATO stock came with its own hammer pack too. I've not compared it with the hammer pack that came with the standard stock, so I don't know if they differ in the BHO design or in some other way. I've got a set of M.I. BUIs on my AUG A3. They work fine out to 50yds. Haven't tried any farther than that, as I prefer my ELCAN for reaching out further (1-4x version). My AUG A3 in NATO drag: http://qandr.dyndns-home.com/img/AUG/AUG_A3_L_ElCanDRC1_PMag30.jpg The BUIs are folded, but you get the idea? Yep, totally see it now. I haven't paid much attention to the AUG, really. I'm waiting for the new version to show up before I buy one. |
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Quoted: I see. I thought Steyr made a run of AUGs with NATO stocks. That was my problem. I thought the last batch before pulling out of the market was in NATO stocks. I think that the A3 AUG's sold with the NATO stocks were put together by PJ's and were not a factory run. Could be wrong though... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't think they come with built in irons, but they certainly have a 1913 version that will accept them. The factory scope has iron sights cast into the top, IIRC. Correct, but they are pretty much worthless. rnprice's AUG below with the ELCAN probably has a much better iron sight built into the top of his ELCAN than the Steyr iron sights. |
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