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8/12/2009 8:54:49 PM EDT
After researching the Trigger Tamer, I ordered a Trigger Lite from razerface off of the EE.  To me it looked like a better product and the Trigger Lite gives you four different pull weights versus one with the Trigger Tamer.  I also picked up a digital trigger pull gage.  All of my numbers are from a LYMAN DIGITAL TRIGGER PULL GAUGE Model: RSR-LYM7832248 and are an average of 10 pulls.

The trigger pull on my AXR was 10lbs 5oz before any kind of modifications.  As I was waiting for the Trigger Lite (it was only 2 weeks) I was reading what a difference a polish and lubing the hell out of the hammer pack can make.  All that a polish entails is getting rid of any kind of molding marks and anything else that is raised like numbers, time stamps, and etc.  So I got out some 800, 1500, and 2000 grit sandpaper and got to sanding.  This was by no means a fast process but to me this is not something you want to rush.  This did quite a bit to help the trigger. Now the pull was down to 7lbs 9oz.  I would include pictures but it is just too hard to see that I am talking about.

As razerface said the Trigger Lite gives you four choices.  The heaviest setting is the same as your original pull weight and they only get lighter.  On the first setting the average was 7lbs 8oz and the second was 6lbs 9oz the third was 5lbs 10oz and the forth was 4lbs 9oz. At every setting the trigger reset worked just fine by hand (I have not fired my AXR with the Trigger Lite installed).

I know all of you with AUG platform hate the amount of slop in the trigger.  I have a very simple and easy solution that requires no permanent modifications.  First you need to make sure that the trigger linkage is engaging as soon as possible.  I did not have to do anything because Kent had that adjusted perfectly.  As for the slop after the hammer is released, I glued a small piece of oak (it is just want I had handy) to act as an extension to the existing stop.  I used silicone over other glues because it flexes and it is not permanent.  This got my total trigger pull down to 3mm total.  I could have made it less but I figured it was not worth weakening the hammer pack.

All of the white you see is Hoppe's Dri-Lube
8/12/2009 9:13:09 PM EDT
[#1]
cool good job the piece of oak on the other hand..... lol
8/12/2009 10:45:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I've also done a trigger job on my AXR's trigger pack.  Dry lube helps a lot and I haven't polished anything except the engagement surfaces in the trigger pack.  Things I've done:

  • Removal of second hammer spring (TPD does this for you, AUG A3's come with them however.)

  • Replaced Steyr hammer with MSAR hammer, cut engagement surface approximately 1/8th of an inch on hammer.  Retained the stock Steyr hammer in case I ever need to switch back.

  • Polish hammer/sear engagement surfaces.

  • Over-travel stop, adjustable... used a long machine screw.

  • Mod similar to trigger tamer/trigger lite.

My total trigger pull is down to just under 2mm and I estimate the weight at around 4lbs.

Also, I have fired the AXR with these modifications.  I went so far as to chamber a live round and try like hell to get it to go off without hitting the trigger, by slamming the buttstock into the ground, smacking it around and generally abusing the gun.  No dice, 100% perfect functionality.  Of course, YMMV, IANAGS, etc.
8/13/2009 12:32:58 PM EDT
[#3]
4 lb 9 oz huh? Thats nice.  Watch out when you shoot that. I had to take one of my trigger springs out to get that light, and my STG would double,,,so I had to put the spring back in and run 5 lb some oz.

Thats pretty nice that you got over 2 lbs out by polishing. I haven't polished mine as I use it to test with and I want it stock. I think I will though, and see if it will take more tension off and not double.

I have never lubed mine with dry lube either. I use that TW25 stuff. I'll have to try  dry lube.

8/13/2009 12:35:26 PM EDT
[#4]
TW25 is good.  Doubling is bad.
8/13/2009 7:23:35 PM EDT
[#5]
So what does this do to the drop safety of the rifle?



I ask because it was my understanding that the heavier trigger pull acts as something of a drop safety in the event of a drop on the buttstock to allow the bolt and carrier to unlock and slide backwards (thus preventing firing) before the hammer is released, which would fire the rifle.



So if it takes less force to drop the hammer than to unlock the bolt doesn't this partially defeat the safety mechanism?



I freely admit ignorance in the inner workings of the aug hammer pack so feel free to correct me.



Just curious.
8/14/2009 12:25:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
4 lb 9 oz huh? Thats nice.  Watch out when you shoot that. I had to take one of my trigger springs out to get that light, and my STG would double,,,so I had to put the spring back in and run 5 lb some oz.

Thats pretty nice that you got over 2 lbs out by polishing. I haven't polished mine as I use it to test with and I want it stock. I think I will though, and see if it will take more tension off and not double.

I have never lubed mine with dry lube either. I use that TW25 stuff. I'll have to try  dry lube.



I will take all of my parts with me to the range. So if I have to change anything I can on the fly.  Thank you for the warning and for the Lrigger Lites

Quoted:
So what does this do to the drop safety of the rifle?

I ask because it was my understanding that the heavier trigger pull acts as something of a drop safety in the event of a drop on the buttstock to allow the bolt and carrier to unlock and slide backwards (thus preventing firing) before the hammer is released, which would fire the rifle.

So if it takes less force to drop the hammer than to unlock the bolt doesn't this partially defeat the safety mechanism?

I freely admit ignorance in the inner workings of the aug hammer pack so feel free to correct me.

Just curious.


Good Point!!!  No one really ever plans on dropping a rifle but stuff happens.  I just did a drop test from about 4' (with an empty chamber), and good news he hammer did not trip.  I would go higher but I don't want to brake my rifle I like it too much
8/18/2009 9:00:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Nice work, sounds like a good bit of work.  I might use something other than oak like a nice walnut :), but hey that is just me..

8/18/2009 9:46:25 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Nice work, sounds like a good bit of work.  I might use something other than oak like a nice walnut :), but hey that is just me..



Or something exotic like teak or cocobolo.  
8/18/2009 10:03:26 AM EDT
[#9]
I'd think Austrian Maple would be appropriate.
8/18/2009 10:28:16 AM EDT
[#10]
well walnut has to big of pours to work good, unless you use english walnut that has smaller pours.  oak is a good choice almost no pours, but i would have to agree with maple closest thing to plastic other then some wax woods , but i didnt know that austrailia had there own maple
8/18/2009 10:52:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Perhaps not, but AUSTRIA does
8/18/2009 10:59:38 AM EDT
[#12]
lol thats what i meant lol sorry austria
8/18/2009 2:12:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
lol thats what i meant lol sorry austria


Austria eh?  Well, put anothah shrimp on the barbie mate!
8/18/2009 6:58:17 PM EDT
[#14]
This weekend i helped my friend put the Trigger Lite on his AXR.  His hammer pack is unmodified (no polishing).
10lbs 5oz (with out Trigger Lite)
9lbs 8oz
8lbs  3oz
6lbs 12oz
6lbs 9oz
He wants me to test my AXR before he polishes his hammer pack.
9/24/2009 2:58:09 PM EDT
[#15]
WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW
I just got back from the range and all I can say is WOW.  My groups are tight, my trigger is crisp, light, and flawless.  At 50 yards I was getting about 1/2" groups sitting and using a sand bag for support, standing at 50 yards I was getting 1 1/2" groups, and rapid fire standing i was with in center mass at 50 yards.  I am so happy with my AXR right now. Now i have to get the parts to fix my .22. Damn the fact that extractors don't last more than 50 years...lol
9/24/2009 3:16:51 PM EDT
[#16]
I am curious how this compares to the Trigger Tamer.
9/24/2009 5:46:51 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I am curious how this compares to the Trigger Tamer.


I am too...Do you or anyone out there have a trigger tamer.

The trigger lite did a very good job, but I think the polish was the icing on the cake.  Even if you are not going to get a trigger lite or trigger tamer I would recommend a good polish to smooth everything out.
9/25/2009 5:53:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Check your inbox.  I will send you mine for testing.
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