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Posted: 11/17/2008 10:23:30 AM EDT
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i just checked out steyr's page and it says
"The newly produced AUG rifles are expected to be ready for distribution by January 2009." 
MSRP $2200 30 round mags $35 40 round mags $38
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600?
Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. |
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600? Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. $1600 to $1800 in teh next year? 
Unlikely...every EBR (ARs, AKs) in existence is either a 6-8 month backlog for manufacturing or is selling for 10-20% over MSRP right now. I think something as popular as the Steyr AUG from actual Steyr is going to be impossible to find for MSRP for at least the fist 6-8 months. |
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Actually a lot of dealers are selling the Steyr AUG A3 at the MSRP or very close to it and some even have waiting lists now.
My guess is as bad as the economy is that a lot of folks that have rushed out to purchase rifles they couldn't really afford (otherwise they would have purchased them before now) and that in six months if there is no ban you'll see folks dumping a lot of like NIB rifles on gunbroker driving up supply and decreasing demand resulting in lower prices. It took Clinton over a year and ahalf into office before the 1994 AWB passed. It's estimated that if the BIG 3 go into Chapter 11 around 300,000 people could get laid off. Steyr has imported enough parts to make about 5,000 rifles now as soon as Sabre can make the receivers and barrels. So my guess is that the price of the Steyr AUG after a year with no ban will be probably at around $1900-$2000, which is below the current $2200-$2300 you'll see them going for at first. If you have the guts to hang in there for a few months and gamble that an AWB will not come up in 2009 then you could save a few hundred bucks. |
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600? Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. Not gonna happen. Over at the SCAR thread your were complaining that it was "made out of plastic and at $2700 it cost too much". Well guess what, the AUG is made out of plastic and at $2200 plus 10 30 round mags you are right at $2600. Not much of a difference. |
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600? Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. Not gonna happen. Over at the SCAR thread your were complaining that it was "made out of plastic and at $2700 it cost too much". Well guess what, the AUG is made out of plastic and at $2200 plus 10 30 round mags you are right at $2600. Not much of a difference. Umm, you forgot to add the cost of the 10 magazines to the SCAR in that comparison. $2700 for the SCAR + 10 Lancer Mags (translucent polymer like Steyr)= $2890 $2200 for the AUG A3 + 10 Steyr Magazines (30 rounders) = $2,550.00 That's a difference of $340.00. You can buy your optic like an EO-Tech 511 with the savings. |
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600? Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. Not gonna happen. Over at the SCAR thread your were complaining that it was "made out of plastic and at $2700 it cost too much". Well guess what, the AUG is made out of plastic and at $2200 plus 10 30 round mags you are right at $2600. Not much of a difference. Umm, you forgot to add the cost of the 10 magazines to the SCAR in that comparison. $2700 for the SCAR + 10 Lancer Mags (translucent polymer like Steyr)= $2890 $2200 for the AUG A3 + 10 Steyr Magazines (30 rounders) = $2,550.00 That's a difference of $340.00. You can buy your optic like an EO-Tech 511 with the savings. Yeah, but if you already have M-16 mags like most of us here then the SCAR cost difference evaporates. Man, if only the AUG came with compatibility for M16 mags...but no one would even want that! 
Simple truth is $2700 for any semiauto EBR is just ridiculous. Magpul/Bushmaster, SIG, and Robarms have all been able to make similar rifles for 50-60% of that price. |
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so after awhile, maybe the price might get below 1800? in a year (if no ban) it might go to 1600? Mags are cheaper then what I thought they would be.... 4 - 40s and 2 or 3 30s would do nicely. then again I hope the rifle for 2200 will have like 4 or 5 mags to it, hehehehe. Not gonna happen. Over at the SCAR thread your were complaining that it was "made out of plastic and at $2700 it cost too much". Well guess what, the AUG is made out of plastic and at $2200 plus 10 30 round mags you are right at $2600. Not much of a difference. Umm, you forgot to add the cost of the 10 magazines to the SCAR in that comparison. $2700 for the SCAR + 10 Lancer Mags (translucent polymer like Steyr)= $2890 $2200 for the AUG A3 + 10 Steyr Magazines (30 rounders) = $2,550.00 That's a difference of $340.00. You can buy your optic like an EO-Tech 511 with the savings. Yeah, but if you already have M-16 mags like most of us here then the SCAR cost difference evaporates. Man, if only the AUG came with compatibility for M16 mags...but no one would even want that! 
Simple truth is $2700 for any semiauto EBR is just ridiculous. Magpul/Bushmaster, SIG, and Robarms have all been able to make similar rifles for 50-60% of that price. +1 If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. |
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle. 
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Not to get off topic, but the brits in a fit of economy over brains, decided to contract out their M16-ish magazine manufacturing in country to save money, and predictably (and in the same vein as the poor SA80) they ended up with a shit product. I have a few of the Brit mags mainly because I wouldn't dare give them away to anyone in good conscience. About all they are good for is M261 air force AR covnersion mag inserts. Anyhow, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. javascript:insertText('[>:/]'); How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Just how long are you guys going to continue to flog this dead horse? 
If you want to use AR mags just use an AR! If you want proper rifle/magazines with a track record of actually working then you are going for this AUG. AUG mags have worked for years without generations of anti-tilt, rainbow coloured followers or total re-engineering like the PMag in order to get them to function properly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… |
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. javascript:insertText('[>:/]'); How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Just how long are you guys going to continue to flog this dead horse?
If you want to use AR mags just use an AR! If you want proper rifle/magazines with a track record of actually working then you are going for this AUG. AUG mags have worked for years without generations of anti-tilt, rainbow coloured followers or total re-engineering like the PMag in order to get them to function properly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… Why would Steyr release a NATO stock to use M16 mags if there system was so 100% perfect in the first place. Demand maybe? Give the people what they want? Why is MSAR working on a AR stock for their AUG clone if there mags are so perfect? It’s all about demand, people want to use their AR mags, in a system that was proven to work using AR and AUG mags, simple as that. I’m not saying the AUG mags aren’t great and I have absolutely no experience with them, but it’s not about what mag is better it’s about what the people want and what they are willing to pay for. |
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Why the fixation on the Lancer translucent mags? Won't the SCAR take any AR mag, PMAG included? Don't get me wrong I want a AUG bad..... Just to give an equal comparison. The standard Steyr AUG magazines are translucent so it's not fair to compare them to the PMAG's that aren't (even the window versions I don't count as the same). |
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Why would Steyr release a NATO stock to use M16 mags if there system was so 100% perfect in the first place. Demand maybe? Give the people what they want? Why is MSAR working on a AR stock for their AUG clone if there mags are so perfect? It’s all about demand, people want to use their AR mags, in a system that was proven to work using AR and AUG mags, simple as that. I’m not saying the AUG mags aren’t great and I have absolutely no experience with them, but it’s not about what mag is better it’s about what the people want and what they are willing to pay for. I believe they came out with the NATO stock after the hi-cap ban went into effect through the 1994 AWB. |
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. javascript:insertText('[>:/]'); How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Just how long are you guys going to continue to flog this dead horse?
If you want to use AR mags just use an AR! If you want proper rifle/magazines with a track record of actually working then you are going for this AUG. AUG mags have worked for years without generations of anti-tilt, rainbow coloured followers or total re-engineering like the PMag in order to get them to function properly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… Why would Steyr release a NATO stock to use M16 mags if there system was so 100% perfect in the first place. Demand maybe? Give the people what they want? Why is MSAR working on a AR stock for their AUG clone if there mags are so perfect? It’s all about demand, people want to use their AR mags, in a system that was proven to work using AR and AUG mags, simple as that. I’m not saying the AUG mags aren’t great and I have absolutely no experience with them, but it’s not about what mag is better it’s about what the people want and what they are willing to pay for. You answered your question: NATO. Steyr AUG's are used by a number of NATO countries and they wanted it to use the standard magazine. I think the metal AR mags are inferior, but PMags have changed that. I am up to about 100 PMags, so I'm getting an AXR. |
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. javascript:insertText('[>:/]'); How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Just how long are you guys going to continue to flog this dead horse?
If you want to use AR mags just use an AR! If you want proper rifle/magazines with a track record of actually working then you are going for this AUG. AUG mags have worked for years without generations of anti-tilt, rainbow coloured followers or total re-engineering like the PMag in order to get them to function properly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… Well, I guess since I helped drag things off topic, here is a brain teaser for you: If AUG mags are so perfect then why hasn't every country dumped M-16 mags and gone to AUG mags as their standard? 
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If you don't already own enough AR mags then maybe you need to concentrate on stocking up for your AR before looking at other high dollar rifles that also take AR mags. Silent, you don't strike me as the type to be short on mags. A lot of folks here have AUG mags already or MSAR magazines or both. Myself included. javascript:insertText('[>:/]'); How many folks though have translucent AR polymer magazines? Only one decent transcluent AR magazine out there and that's the Lancer magazines IMHO. Austrian guys like their magazines. They've seen them combat proven over the last 31 years and they're pretty happy with them. On the flip side they've seen AR magazines cause problems for the Brits and others over in Europe. When asked why the A3 wouldn't take AR magazines at SHOT the Austrian rep said with accent "because they're shit." I don't share that exact opinion, but the AUG is their rifle.
Just how long are you guys going to continue to flog this dead horse?
If you want to use AR mags just use an AR! If you want proper rifle/magazines with a track record of actually working then you are going for this AUG. AUG mags have worked for years without generations of anti-tilt, rainbow coloured followers or total re-engineering like the PMag in order to get them to function properly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… Well, I guess since I helped drag things off topic, here is a brain teaser for you: If AUG mags are so perfect then why hasn't every country dumped M-16 mags and gone to AUG mags as their standard?
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LOL, I am just razzing you guys. I think by now we all know there are AUG-with-M16 mag and a AUG-with-AUG mag camps around here, and we have all just agreed to disagree. I think we can all agree that no matter which mag it feeds from, the gun is a pretty nifty design. 
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Why would Steyr release a NATO stock to use M16 mags if there system was so 100% perfect in the first place. Demand maybe? Give the people what they want? Why is MSAR working on a AR stock for their AUG clone if there mags are so perfect? It’s all about demand, people want to use their AR mags, in a system that was proven to work using AR and AUG mags, simple as that. I’m not saying the AUG mags aren’t great and I have absolutely no experience with them, but it’s not about what mag is better it’s about what the people want and what they are willing to pay for. I believe they came out with the NATO stock after the hi-cap ban went into effect through the 1994 AWB. Did not know this, I think I was in 2nd grade in 94... Quoted:
LOL, I am just razzing you guys. I think by now we all know there are AUG-with-M16 mag and a AUG-with-AUG mag camps around here, and we have all just agreed to disagree. I think we can all agree that no matter which mag it feeds from, the gun is a pretty nifty design. Sounds like we need two forums. |
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Why would Steyr release a NATO stock to use M16 mags if there system was so 100% perfect in the first place. Demand maybe? Give the people what they want? Why is MSAR working on a AR stock for their AUG clone if there mags are so perfect? It’s all about demand, people want to use their AR mags, in a system that was proven to work using AR and AUG mags, simple as that. I’m not saying the AUG mags aren’t great and I have absolutely no experience with them, but it’s not about what mag is better it’s about what the people want and what they are willing to pay for. I believe they came out with the NATO stock after the hi-cap ban went into effect through the 1994 AWB. Did not know this, I think I was in 2nd grade in 94... Quoted:
LOL, I am just razzing you guys. I think by now we all know there are AUG-with-M16 mag and a AUG-with-AUG mag camps around here, and we have all just agreed to disagree. I think we can all agree that no matter which mag it feeds from, the gun is a pretty nifty design. Sounds like we need two forums. LOL, I dunno, I am pretty comfortable with folks who want to use AUG mags or Steyr AUGs, it is the guys who can't stand the MSARs or the thought of an AUG that uses M-16 mags that I don't get. Live and let live I figure.
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Well, I guess since I helped drag things off topic, here is a brain teaser for you: If AUG mags are so perfect then why hasn't every country dumped M-16 mags and gone to AUG mags as their standard?
When you really think about it, that's kinda what the Pmags and Lancer mags are, aren't they? Made from polymer and the Lancer is translucent. They seem to "borrow" from the AUG mag technology. Point is, they aren't made of metal, the Pmag is ribbed polymer and the Lancer is translucent polymer/plastic. ARKAR |
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Well, I guess since I helped drag things off topic, here is a brain teaser for you: If AUG mags are so perfect then why hasn't every country dumped M-16 mags and gone to AUG mags as their standard?
When you really think about it, that's kinda what the Pmags and Lancer mags are, aren't they? Made from polymer and the Lancer is translucent. They seem to "borrow" from the AUG mag technology. Point is, they aren't made of metal, the Pmag is ribbed polymer and the Lancer is translucent polymer/plastic. ARKAR Whoa, what the heck happened there? My original post disappeared but you managed to quote it? |
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