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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Kel-Tec RFB Thread (Page 1 of 17)
Posted: 6/14/2008 11:34:54 PM EDT
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Since we now have a Bullpup forum, I think it appropriate that there be a thread devoted to what may very well be the best bullpup yet designed: the Kel-Tec RFB. A .308 bullpup with a match trigger that's perfectly ambidextrous, uses widely available and inexpensive magazines, and feels like a dream. All it takes to become hooked is to pick one up. As of right now (6/15/08), best information from the internet indicates that the Carbine model will become available sometime late Q4 of this year, with a retail price estimated to quite likely (hopefully) be between $1500-2000. The Sporter and Target models are said to be anticipated to come out sometime later in 2009, at a higher price. Videos: Official Kel-Tec Videos Page RFB Teaser Video RFB Carbine Cutaway Video Camosoul77's Video #1 Camosoul77's Video #2 Camosoul77's Video #3 Camosoul77's Video #4 Camosoul77's Video #5 Camosoul77's Video #6 Links: Kel-Tec Flyer PDF World.Guns.Ru RFB Page KTOG RFB Forum Fall can't come soon enough... |
Definetly. Short OAL allows you to easily sling it out of the way while you work and yet you've got .308 goodness at your beck and call. That's why bullpups are perfect for civilians you've got an easy to carry and easy to shoudler rifle with no folding stock to mess with and consistent cheek weld. I can't wait to feel the trigger. This is going to be the biggest thing for me with the RFB to see how much they have improved the bullpup trigger with this new design that has been much hyped. If I pull it and it feel like a match grade trigger on an AR I'll probably dance naked through the streets or something. |
I can't wait to feel it myself. I think it can't be overstated just how important a jump this will be to the bullpup platform. I used to hear folks say "you'll never overcome the connection issues," and of course I always knew better than to say it will "never" happen. |
but at what price? is the trigger still jsut as durable and simple? |
On the 'next product' part of that survey they mention a bullpup .22magnum with high cap mags, I love the thought of a bullpup .22mag with 45 round mags or the like! |
www.kel-tec-cnc.com/images/downloads/RFB_Flyer_SHOT_2007_web.pdf I assume that they are talking about the 32" barrel in when they said that it can propell a 210 grain bullet at the same vevocity that the M110 SASS shoots 175 grain bullets (2500 fps). I want a 32" barrel in one of these rifles. I handload & it has me thinking of some of the possibilities. 32" barrel + heavy bullets + slow powder = 
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I want a .308 with the 32" barrel..... I just hope they get to production in time.. the stars are in an eerily familar formation ... I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and still waiting for the MSAR to become available wiith the long barrel... I suppose I should just buy an 18" straightway and work out the one I want if it becomes a reality..... ... I've been down this road before, while I am excited, it isn't real until I've inked the 4473 and I am walking out the door of P&C Sporting Goods |
Yep, that would appeal to me as well. I have one of the relatively rare and long-since-out-of-production Grendel R-31 carbines -- the collapsible-stocked carbine version of the P-30 pistol that uses the same 30-round triple-stack .22MAG magazines it did. I love that little carbine, but a KT bullpup would be a very nice companion piece for it. 
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unfortunately the P-30 has flimsey mags and was iffy on anything other than winchester. when mine ran it was a great & accurate .22mag when it didn't well, i no longer own the 2 i had. kel-tec was grendel @ one time. owned by george? kelgren. i still have an older P-30 pistol box, extra hammer springs, different height f/sights and frame hardware if anyones interested. |
I had similar issues with one of the two P-30s that came thorugh my hands, but the little R-31 carbine didn't/doesn't have any of those issues at all, and I never had a mag-related problem, personally. |
why? so they can spend hundred of thousands of dollars on tooling up to produce a rifle they only get to sell 5 of before they are illegal? |
Are you saying they should just give up because someone might pass a law someday? "Fortune favors the bold". That didn't get to be an old saying by being incorrect. That being said, if they want to put their money into something else, that's their decision. I do hope they get this on the market before Clyde gets in office though. Looks like a nice rifle. |
Cliche Fallacy. You can use a cliche or a saying to articulate an argument, but it cannot be taken as proof b/c for everyone that says onething, there is anyther cliche that says the opposite. "better safe than sorry" "before a man endeavors to build a tower, he should..." etc. |
Hmmm.... Maybe if it weren't bloated and more along the lines of the RFB, and took what i feel are the greatest NATO mags to date (Pmag) than i would take a look see. |
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Set the watch fires, Kel-Tec has added the RFB page: "RFB Coming Soon" |
No information yet though. My guess is we've got anywhere from a month to three months before we see it. |
| Interesting rifle for sure. Watching the vids at the beginning of the thread was agonizing. Looks like they rounded up a few fellas that have never touched a gun before. Mentally saying to myself "gimmie that rifle sissy boy so someone can shoot the damn thing". lol! |
It takes a little while to learn a new manual of arms for any rifle let alone one that has never existed before. I look forward to learning that particular manual of arms. |
+1!!! I'm sure that if KelTec made one, it would be SIGNIFICANTLY less bulky. Oh, wait... they kinda sorta almost did:  Kel-tec 5,56mm SUB-16 prototype personal defense weapon of early 1990s, which served as a starting point for RFB I know you guys are all excited about the RFB, but I would take one of these over the RFB any day... I personally think that KelTec should have been sitting on this design just waiting for 2004, and pick up where this one left off. They could have had them on the market by now instead of creating those ridiculous SU-16 folding abominations. 
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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Kel-Tec RFB Thread (Page 1 of 17)
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