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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 45acp Powder (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/25/2017 2:22:13 PM EDT
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I had a thread going a week or so ago about 45acp and 185gr bullets. I've only shot 230gr plated so far but ordered up some Nosler185s and 200grn LWSC. I've used Unique in the past, but for the last coupe years have been using Power Pistol with the 230gr stuff. I'm thinking I might be better off with a different powder for these new bullets. I'm not chasing velocity and prefer accuracy...800-900fps or whatever works best for these bullets. The goal is an accurate load out to 25 yards. What am I looking for? Bullseye, 231, AA#5, or something else?
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Similar for me but with 5.0gr of HP-38. Quoted:
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I just loaded up some 230 LRN over 5.0 of W231. Â I haven't chronographed it, but the Hornady manual says that should be ~750 fps. |
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I use little more powder for about 800 fps but 231/HP38 all the way. Similar load with 200 gr SWC works as well or better. |
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I'm not the only one...  I like that takes very little and how filling it is. Also doesn't make a giant mess in my dispenser like bullseye.Quoted:
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700X I like that takes very little and how filling it is. Also doesn't make a giant mess in my dispenser like bullseye. Some folks do not like it and say it does not measure well.
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As you can see everyone has their favorite spotted puppy. The 45acp is one the mikey's of the reloading world, it will eat about anything. If you're looking for target grade accuracy you need to have a firearm capable of that accuracy. All shots have to be touching @ 50ft and 2" groups @ 25yds don't cut it.
That being said, you should look at powders/charges for other calibers when you setup your powder measure for the 45acp. Typically you can use the same powder/load for the 45acp/357/44spl. Don't know if you load for any of those calibers but whatever you decide to try take a look around and see if you can use the same powder/amount of that powder to test other caliber/bullet combo's. My 45acp/target load, a 200gr swc bullet. When I setup to load the 45acp target loads I also load a batch of 38spl p+ loads using the same 3.8gr of bullseye. 
I don't use/shoot 185gr bullets for the 45acp very often but when I do I like to use the same 5.0gr of wst as others have mentioned. 5.0gr or wst also does extremely well for 9mm target loads. My 9mm target load. 
A # of pistol powder goes a long way, try picking a powder that can be used for several different calibers/loads. |
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As you can see everyone has their favorite spotted puppy. The 45acp is one the mikey's of the reloading world, it will eat about anything. If you're looking for target grade accuracy you need to have a firearm capable of that accuracy. All shots have to be touching @ 50ft and 2" groups @ 25yds don't cut it. That being said, you should look at powders/charges for other calibers when you setup your powder measure for the 45acp. Typically you can use the same powder/load for the 45acp/357/44spl. Don't know if you load for any of those calibers but whatever you decide to try take a look around and see if you can use the same powder/amount of that powder to test other caliber/bullet combo's. My 45acp/target load, a 200gr swc bullet. When I setup to load the 45acp target loads I also load a batch of 38spl p+ loads using the same 3.8gr of bullseye. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/38bull50ft_zps126936b2.jpg I don't use/shoot 185gr bullets for the 45acp very often but when I do I like to use the same 5.0gr of wst as others have mentioned. 5.0gr or wst also does extremely well for 9mm target loads. My 9mm target load. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/ro9mm50ft_zpslprjmumk.jpg A # of pistol powder goes a long way, try picking a powder that can be used for several different calibers/loads. |
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I didn't know you could chamber a 44 magnum casing in a 44spl revolver. But I've never tried it either. Unique and Bullseye are my usual for 45acp. I've tried W-231. No complaints. Motor |
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700X I've also burned through alot of bullseye with great results. I once tried W231 but it seemed to leave powder specks all over me IIRC. |
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The USMC load is sort of specific with respect to ultimate tweaking is with Win WLP and Win Brass.
You can almost run along side the bullets traveling to the target. To me I have had good experiences with 231/HP38, TG, Universal Clays, N310, and Bullseye. Burned up a whole lot of 231/HP38 with 200gr HG68 Clones Federal Primers |
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I'm not the only one... I like that takes very little and how filling it is. Also doesn't make a giant mess in my dispenser like bullseye.Quoted:
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700X I like that takes very little and how filling it is. Also doesn't make a giant mess in my dispenser like bullseye. |
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I moved to WST when I couldnt find Bullseye during the colder times...
I am glad I did. WST seems cleaner burning. Fast powders won't win any velocity awards but they are cleaner in a suppressor. Another great thing about WST is that you can see it easier in a case (even if you don't wet tumble). It's a white powder. Meters better than some others mentioned above including Unique. |
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I like faster powders for 45 acp. I am a Bullseye fan because it cleans off easily, meters well and is easy to find, even though it may be a little dirty.
It always is surprising the range of slow to fast burn rate powders people like for 45 ACP. I have tried many of the powders mentioned and found they work well. I have never tried the slowest powders for 45 ACP because they give too much velocity in smaller calibers. I will have to breach the slower powders to see if there is something I am missing. |
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I moved to WST when I couldnt find Bullseye during the colder times... I am glad I did. WST seems cleaner burning. Fast powders won't win any velocity awards but they are cleaner in a suppressor. Another great thing about WST is that you can see it easier in a case (even if you don't wet tumble). It's a white powder. Meters better than some others mentioned above including Unique. |
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I just loaded up some 230 LRN over 5.0 of W231. Â I haven't chronographed it, but the Hornady manual says that should be ~750 fps. |
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The WST I have is the normal gray color. Quoted:
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I moved to WST when I couldnt find Bullseye during the colder times... I am glad I did. WST seems cleaner burning. Fast powders won't win any velocity awards but they are cleaner in a suppressor. Another great thing about WST is that you can see it easier in a case (even if you don't wet tumble). It's a white powder. Meters better than some others mentioned above including Unique. 
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Our term are different. To me that color is light gray. 
My point is that it's easier to see in even dark cases than other powders so it helps with older eyes. |
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I like to say that about my facial hair before I shave it off... "not white yet.. just light gray".
My point is that it's easier to see in even dark cases than other powders so it helps with older eyes. Quoted:
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Our term are different. To me that color is light gray.
My point is that it's easier to see in even dark cases than other powders so it helps with older eyes. |
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Well I haven't got around to buying any new powder yet. I did load up some of the 185 Noslers and 200gr lwsc with some Powder Pistol. They functioned just fine. Accuracy went to the 185s. Group size was about 20% smaller for me over my 230gr plated Extreme load.
I still need to play around with it some more with a different powder. |
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I have been using winchester WSF, 5.8 grains with 230 grain FMJ bullet. I have been pleased with the results, speeds of 825 fps. Neither WSF nor W231 produces anywhere near as much smoke or residue on the pistol as Unique (which is in a class by itself for those). Ultimately, I chose W231 over SF. I've used W231 at night in total darkness - muzzle flash and smoke in the high intensity flashlight beam were very low. |
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I had a thread going a week or so ago about 45acp and 185gr bullets. I've only shot 230gr plated so far but ordered up some Nosler185s and 200grn LWSC. I've used Unique in the past, but for the last coupe years have been using Power Pistol with the 230gr stuff. I'm thinking I might be better off with a different powder for these new bullets. I'm not chasing velocity and prefer accuracy...800-900fps or whatever works best for these bullets. The goal is an accurate load out to 25 yards. What am I looking for? Bullseye, 231, AA#5, or something else? Favorite loads with these bullets? I'm shooting regular 1911s. Your gun will tell you what it likes. With that said, almost every load I've tried with fast powders in .45 1911s has been at least decently accurate, and most of them more than decent. Titegroup, Bullseye, and Clays have all worked well for me. I've also gotten really good results from Universal even though it's more a medium powder. I've had mediocre results from 231 and don't care for it. |
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