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4/2/2017 4:16:15 PM EDT
I'm curious what everyone is using for .223 55gr plinker load data? Obviously something that is fairly accurate and will meter decent out of a Hornady AP powder drop.
4/2/2017 6:39:31 PM EDT
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25.0 grains of H335
4/2/2017 6:46:22 PM EDT
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Hornady 55 FMJ's in bulk with Hodgdon H335 powder from 24.5-25 grains. I prefer RP 7 1/2 primers in LC brass.
4/2/2017 6:47:22 PM EDT
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I am not too picky on blasting ammo, I aim to make it cheap as possible, and only load in the winter when i have lots of free time. Spring/summer/fall, I just buy factory brass cased cheap FMJ stuff, shoot it/stack it away. And the stuff I do shoot gives me a nice pile of brass to reload in the winter.

My basic plinking load is:

Mixed brass, either once fired by me, or range pickups where it's allowed.

S&B small rifle primers which I have been getting from Cabela's for $25.90/1000 tax included

24.5 grains of BL-C(2) that I get at the LGS for $26.97/lb after sales tax

Hornady 55 grain FMJ's which I get in bulk from the LGS for $53.98/500 after sales tax.

I am around .23/rd, It's not really a big savings. I just enjoy doing it. And have lots of free time Dec-March to do it .

Cheapest stuff local is Tula steel case for .29/rd at Walmart, Fed. Am. Eagle brass case .223 for .34/rd at Walmart, and Perfecta .223 for .32/rd also at Walmart.
4/2/2017 7:03:12 PM EDT
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LC brass

55gr FMJ   . . hornady is about the best . . . but i've been know to load pulled surplus FMJ's,....for full auto or 25 yard 3-gun stages, it won't matter

Wc844 or WC846 military surplus powder, if you can find it cheap.

if not, which ever is cheapest in 8 lb jugs

win748
H335
AA-2230
BLC2
etc.

I prefer winchester primers

processed and loaded on a Dillon XL650

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4/2/2017 8:58:21 PM EDT
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only 55gr I load is the vmax using 24.5grs of XBR 8208.
4/2/2017 8:59:08 PM EDT
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That's a great load.

Some find 24.5 works well also.
4/6/2017 10:07:32 AM EDT
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2.250" OAL? Any Crimp?
4/6/2017 10:29:58 AM EDT
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For me,

Range Pickup cases, inspect well!

CCI #41 Primers

Any 55 gr FMJ, I have used Montana Gold, Wolf, Hornady and surplus pulled.

25 grains of TAC, H335, WC844, WC845, AA2223, CFE 223, 748, or XBR 8208, whatever I've got.

Trim to under 1.76, set OAL to match cannelure, crimp with Lee FCD

Load many, shoot often!

My cost is generally less than Wolf, Tula etc.

If I can get 3 moa out of my carbines I'm good for the type of shooting I do with them!
4/6/2017 10:38:49 AM EDT
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my plinker load....

Hornady 55gr FMJ ( reasonably accurate, cheap when you buy the 5000 count bulk pack)
25.0gr TAC ( meters great in my 650, works for all my other 223 loads )
Winchester primer

various brass, trimmed to 1.745 (yeah I like em short)

Gives me about 1.5 to 2.0 MOA out of my precision AR, and it cycles just fine in every AR I've tried it in (my 3 AR's, plus several friends AR's who needed to buy ammo on short notice).
4/6/2017 2:56:56 PM EDT
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That's a great load.

Some find 24.5 works well also.
Yup.  That's what I load. Cheap, accurate, easy to make.

H335 meters amazing in my dillon pm. 55g Hornady bought in bulk for about $.065. S&b small rifle primers.
4/6/2017 3:20:45 PM EDT
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24.5gr H335.
4/6/2017 3:25:25 PM EDT
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Yes 2.250 OAL and no crimp just make sure you have a minimum of .002 neck tension
4/6/2017 3:32:44 PM EDT
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Yes 2.250 OAL and no crimp just make sure you have a minimum of .002 neck tension
Serious or a typo?

The 55 gr FMJBT is meant to be seated mid cannelure, so around 2.220, depending on trim length.

Seating to near mag length has no accuracy advantage and lessons neck tension.
4/6/2017 5:52:06 PM EDT
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I'm another that uses 25.0 of H335 with a Hornady 55fmj.

I've used a few other powders in the past but H335 as been the primary one for the last 4-5 years.
4/6/2017 6:09:35 PM EDT
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The 55 gr FMJBT is meant to be seated mid cannelure, so around 2.220, depending on trim length.

Seating to near mag length has no accuracy advantage and lessons neck tension.
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25.0 grains of H335
2.250" OAL? Any Crimp?
Yes 2.250 OAL and no crimp just make sure you have a minimum of .002 neck tension
Serious or a typo?

The 55 gr FMJBT is meant to be seated mid cannelure, so around 2.220, depending on trim length.

Seating to near mag length has no accuracy advantage and lessons neck tension.
Not a typo I have not had a problem with doing that. I'm not getting any bullet set back and ignition is constant with no large variation with MV or unburnt powder left over.
4/6/2017 8:51:28 PM EDT
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4/6/2017 9:13:58 PM EDT
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My light plinking load is 22.0gr of H335 under a 55gr projectile.

It has always cycled well for me though I'm sure it's running kinda slow.
4/6/2017 10:05:07 PM EDT
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24.7-24.8gr of H335 because that's what my Lee Double Disk drops.  Been using Winchester 55gr lately because they were on sale.  
They've been a pretty fair plinking round.
4/7/2017 10:24:06 PM EDT
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I found 2 accuracy nodes when working up my "plinking load" using WC-844 one at 22gr the other around 24gr. Since we rarely shoot more than 200 yards I see no reason for the little velocity gain using more powder would provide so I use the 22gr load.

Since WC-844 is very much like H-335 (the WC-844 I'm currently using just about matches it perfectly) I'd bet that many other people would also find an accurate sweet spot in the same area if they looked.

I know 2 to 3 grains don't sound like much but if you load 1000 rounds that's almost 1/2 pound of less powder used if shooting the lighter charge.

Motor
4/7/2017 11:47:37 PM EDT
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My 55gr plinking load is LC brass trimmed to 1.760", Berry's 55gr fmj bullets, CCI 400 primers, 23.5gr 8208XBR, OAL 2.220". This is the starting load in Hodgdon's load data. It has functioned 100% reliably in all of my guns. It's mild, clocking around 2760 fps over my chronograph out of 16" barrel, but it's cheap to load and easy on my brass.
4/8/2017 12:13:26 AM EDT
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24.7gr H335.  Why 24.7gr?  Its what my Lee Auto disk drops.  Was going for 24.5gr.
4/8/2017 12:16:09 AM EDT
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Good as reason as any.
4/8/2017 8:49:38 AM EDT
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Ok I just started collecting equipment to reload my brass this winter so this thread is of interest to me. One of the first things I've picked up is the Hornady reloading book.

Is there more than one H335 or am I looking in the wrong spot. The book I have shows 24.5grs as beyond max load. Complete reloading newb  so can someone educate on this?

Thanks
DTD
4/8/2017 9:56:11 AM EDT
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That's a great load.

Some find 24.5 works well also.
I found my best accuracy at 24.0 grains.

I also got a very light recoiling, fairly accurate load at 22.5 grains using Wolf 55-grain bullets.

To the OP, I seat the Hornady bullets to about 2.20", or roughly mid-cannelure. I don't crimp.
4/8/2017 10:04:12 AM EDT
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I found 2 accuracy nodes when working up my "plinking load" using WC-844 one at 22gr the other around 24gr. Since we rarely shoot more than 200 yards I see no reason for the little velocity gain using more powder would provide so I use the 22gr load.

Since WC-844 is very much like H-335 (the WC-844 I'm currently using just about matches it perfectly) I'd bet that many other people would also find an accurate sweet spot in the same area if they looked.

I know 2 to 3 grains don't sound like much but if you load 1000 rounds that's almost 1/2 pound of less powder used if shooting the lighter charge.

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22.5gr H335 under a 55gr FMJ is my 3gun hoser load.
Very soft shooting and accurate.
Believe it or not, it works better with the Wolf 55gr projectile than it does with the Hornady.
I'm getting low on the Wolf projos too and starting to feel antsy.
It's been quite a while since they have been back in stock.

Here is a pic I took after testing the 22.5gr / wolf load against the heavier bullets at 50yds with my red dot equipped 3gun rifle.



Note, the 55gr hornady load was shot with iron sights and a different rifle.

ETA: I seem to remember 22.5gr is under book minimum, so work down to it just to be safe.
4/8/2017 10:07:07 AM EDT
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Ok I just started collecting equipment to reload my brass this winter so this thread is of interest to me. One of the first things I've picked up is the Hornady reloading book.

Is there more than one H335 or am I looking in the wrong spot. The book I have shows 24.5grs as beyond max load. Complete reloading newb  so can someone educate on this?

Thanks
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Hornady load data is notorious for being on the light side for rifle. Of course, tread carefully especially as a novice.

Hodgdon shows 25.3 grains as max using H335 and a Speer 55-grain SP, using their online load data.

Lyman 49 shows 27 grains as max using a Sierra SP bullet.

I would encourage you to consult with multiple load data sources when working up a new load. I consult both my manuals, as well as online data from either the powder manufacturer or bullet manufacturer.
4/8/2017 10:31:32 AM EDT
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Thanks for the reply. That clarifies things. More manuals are in the plans.
4/8/2017 10:38:55 AM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone mention H322, it meters well for me and is plenty accurate for plinking. I load 22.5 gr with a hornady 55 gr pill seated to 2.200. I my goto is usually H335 but on my last big order they were out of the 8lb'ers so I figured I would give it a shot. Anyone else use this powder?
4/8/2017 12:32:48 PM EDT
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only for 6.8 SPC

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4/9/2017 2:14:05 AM EDT
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55 Hornady FMJ
24.5 H335
Trim 1.750
COAL 2.20
No crimp
CCI 450 or 400

I try to use LC brass, but any works.  This is my go to load for 3 gun.  It works well in any of the rifles I use.
4/9/2017 6:55:19 AM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone mention H322, it meters well for me and is plenty accurate for plinking. I load 22.5 gr with a hornady 55 gr pill seated to 2.200. I my goto is usually H335 but on my last big order they were out of the 8lb'ers so I figured I would give it a shot. Anyone else use this powder?
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Perhaps it's because H332 costs more ($$$)?

Don't see a lot of 62gr bullets either.
4/10/2017 9:58:52 PM EDT
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Yup. Mild load with 23gr H322, 8cent pulled 55gr SP bullets, S&B primers, 2.216 oal. They are capable of about 2MOA accuracy. Substitute a Sierra 55gr SP (#1360), and they are 1MOA.
4/11/2017 8:32:58 AM EDT
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I have found that 24.5gr gives me the same groups at 100 yard that I got when I tried 25.0gr of H335.

So my plinking loads are whatever 55gr bullet I have on hand. I have about 20,000 bullets in my ammo fort. A mixture of X-treme, Wolf, Hornady, Lake City, M193 pulls and some unknown brand.

I have loaded up the unknown stuff and am currently shooting that. I bought most of this stuff during the panic when I found a deal.

If ammo prices continue to drop I probably will start shooting commercial 5.56mm when it hits $0.25/rd.
4/18/2017 12:45:16 AM EDT
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H332 may cost a little more, but you also use less so it evens out...........
4/18/2017 11:24:55 AM EDT
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I typically run two loads for 99% of my .223 shooting, which is for 3-Gun.

23.9 gr TAC with a 77gr OTM with dope set at 50 yards for long range.

23.9gr of H335 with a 55gr FMJ for an "inside the bay" load.  However, it's accurate to 200 meters.

As both powder meter almost exactly the same, I never have to touch the powder measure.

From my 50 yard zero with the 77gr OTM, I just dial in 2 mil elevation and I'm zero'ed at 20 yards with the 55gr load.  This way I don't have to think about any adjustments when I'm running a short range stage.

It's very accurate and incredibly soft shooting.  With a balanced gas system, it's damn near like shooting a .22.  Close to zero muzzle movement.
4/18/2017 10:23:08 PM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone mention H322, it meters well for me and is plenty accurate for plinking. I load 22.5 gr with a hornady 55 gr pill seated to 2.200. I my goto is usually H335 but on my last big order they were out of the 8lb'ers so I figured I would give it a shot. Anyone else use this powder?
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H322 is great for lighter bullets, 40-55gr, and has a pretty dedicated following with 69-77 gr. It meters great and has a well earned rep for accuracy.

I have 4K of the wolf bullets stashed. They look good and the Wolf gold ammo has been great. I have high hopes for them.
4/19/2017 6:45:35 PM EDT
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55gr Hornady with 25.4gr TAC is my current 3gun / plinking load.

I actually seat to about 2.235 OAL and it has been very accurate for me.  2.20 was less accurate and I just settled there.  I'm sure with more load development I could make the shorter OAL work.  I shot a 3rd group at 50yards of .25" the other day.  5rd groups were  just over half inch so I see no reason to fuss at the moment.
4/19/2017 7:57:35 PM EDT
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CFE 223 meters very well for me out of my RCBS and I have a made some pretty darn accurate 55 Gr FMJBT and SP loads with that powder.

I'd have to check my load data.
4/19/2017 8:09:58 PM EDT
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cfe223 is the best metering powder that I have used.
4/20/2017 7:33:24 AM EDT
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CFE
Win748
AA2230
H335
TAC
BLC2
WC844
WC846

all meter and look, and smell about the same

they are similar, but not the same.

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4/21/2017 12:21:31 AM EDT
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55gr Hornady SP with 24.4gr H335. Around 2900fps from a 16" barrel.
4/22/2017 6:40:00 AM EDT
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I got a few lbs of this Power Pro 1200-R for dirt cheap along with $60/k Berrys FMJ 55gr and S&B SRP for $22/k.

22.5gr gets me 2700 from a 16", is light shooting and accurate.  VERY cheap.

When that runs out I'm back to H335 25gr and Hornady 55gr SP
4/22/2017 7:42:53 AM EDT
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Yep. Using the cheapest 55 fmjbt bullets I can find. With either CCI 400s or WSR primers and mixed brass.
4/22/2017 7:49:48 AM EDT
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Same here. WC844 powder when I can find it.
5/10/2017 6:19:44 PM EDT
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COAL?
5/10/2017 8:14:21 PM EDT
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Serious or a typo?

The 55 gr FMJBT is meant to be seated mid cannelure, so around 2.220, depending on trim length.

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I think that would determine on where your throat/rifling starts..
5/10/2017 9:34:07 PM EDT
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2.200-2.205"
5/11/2017 3:46:50 PM EDT
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55gr fmj bullet and 25gn of Cfe 223
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With a 5.56 chamber, you will not reach the lands with a 55 gr bullet. Bullet is too short.

So no advantage to not seat mid cannelure.
5/11/2017 8:47:20 PM EDT
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Any mixed brass (RT1200 trimmed and sized)
Tula KBV556 Primer
Hornady 55gr bulk SP @ 2.22
24.3 gr TAC

Used to use 24.5 H335, but needed TAC on hand for the 77gr bullets, there was no point in stocking a different powder for a blasting load. Now use 24.3 gr TAC for everything in 556.
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