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Posted: 2/7/2017 4:31:47 AM EDT
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I just ordered a WFT 2. One of the thing I have read about them is that it can sometimes be difficult to make minute adjustments to trim length
I was wondering, why couldn't I just use a 1/2" locking collar on the shaft with a variety of 1/2" shims between the collar and the trimmer head? So say after initial setup I'm a few thousands off one way or the other, I would just add or remove the necessary sized shim or shims. Just a thought. After I get it and see how it goes I may or may not follow up on this idea |
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I just ordered a WFT 2. One of the thing I have read about them is that it can sometimes be difficult to make minute adjustments to trim length I was wondering, why couldn't I just use a 1/2" locking collar on the shaft with a variety of 1/2" shims between the collar and the trimmer head? So say after initial setup I'm a few thousands off one way or the other, I would just add or remove the necessary sized shim or shims. Just a thought. After I get it and see how it goes I may or may not follow up on this idea Not a bad idea actually. I put a collar on the shaft of mine. It doesnt move. I set mine using a known trimmed to proper length case, which usually gets me to within a couple thou. If I find I need to adjust I just measure from the collar to the backside of the trimmer. Add when I need to trim less, shorten the distance when I need to trim more. I just measure the case, figure out what I need, and move it as needed with a locked caliper. |
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Not a bad idea actually. I put a collar on the shaft of mine. It doesnt move. I set mine using a known trimmed to proper length case, which usually gets me to within a couple thou. If I find I need to adjust I just measure from the collar to the backside of the trimmer. Add when I need to trim less, shorten the distance when I need to trim more. I just measure the case, figure out what I need, and move it as needed with a locked caliper. I got the trimmer today and after trying to adjust for 300 blk I'm definitely going to try my idea. I already have a shame set that should work from one of my muzzle brakes. Trying to move it 1 or 2 thousandths is frustrating My idea is to have the collar far back enough for my biggest caliber. Then I can get spacers and shims to set each smaller caliber. I can just keep each set in a one of those little plastic cases. Then it's just a matter of grabbing the right set and I should be GTG |
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Once you get this set up can you add photos to this thread? It would be helpful for some of us mechanically challenged reloaders!@ Fullyloaded Sure will I set it up for 300 blk already. I haven't decided if its worth doing the setup with spacers for all calibers or just moving the collar each time. I'm leaning toward moving the collar because the other way just seems like it would be over complicated. But we'll see The concept did work like I expected it to. I set the collar and about 3/16 worth of shims. I trimmed a piece of brass and I was .002" too long. All I had to do then was pull 2 of the .001" spacers and it was right on. If I had been short I would just add shims equal to that amount |
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Just wanted to update
So far the shims have worked really well. I don't think I'm going to bother with having a shim and spacer setup for each caliber though. It's super easy to just move the locking collar and go from there. Tonight I was trimming 300blk and switched from one headstamp to another. With the different brass I was off just a bit more than I'd like. All I had to do was pull the housing and remove one thin shim and I was GTG, no messing with going too far one way then the other etc. Eta: forgot the pics |
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As I mentioned elsewhere, I have the Giraud Tri-Way trimmer chucked in a Harbor Freight buffer (think "grinder"). One of the "slams" I have heard on the Giraud Tri-Way heads is that they are caliber-specific. I am totally fine with that, and although the WFT (and Trim-It) heads can supposedly be used for multiple calibers, I have heard that they are difficult to adapt. I am good with the caliber-specific head design. Here is a picture of my setup. I got the design idea from someone here on AR15.com, but can't remember who. Whoever it was, he is brilliant!!! Thanks! Works in either vertical or horizontal orientation (I have since added rubber caps to the bolts): That's about the same setup I'm using except i just have a regular motor not a bench grinder motor. How many RPMs does that motor turn? I looked at the Giraud one too but I figured by the time I got 3 or 4 calibers I might as well get the full blown trimmer setup. Either way you can still sell the individual trimmers without much loss if you decide to upgrade, assuming they are in popular calibers anyway With the WFT I just hit the inside case mouth with a chamfer tool I have set up. The outside of the case mouths come out fine after I wet tumble |
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That's about the same setup I'm using except i just have a regular motor not a bench grinder motor. How many RPMs does that motor turn? I looked at the Giraud one too but I figured by the time I got 3 or 4 calibers I might as well get the full blown trimmer setup. Either way you can still sell the individual trimmers without much loss if you decide to upgrade, assuming they are in popular calibers anyway With the WFT I just hit the inside case mouth with a chamfer tool I have set up. The outside of the case mouths come out fine after I wet tumble My setup hits 3,450 RPM. I added a foot switch to it for convenience and safety. One of the really nice things about the Giraud setup is that it trims, chamfers and deburrs in one step. I only need .223 and .308 currently, and it is much easier swapping heads than converting for multiple calipers. |
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My setup hits 3,450 RPM. I added a foot switch to it for convenience and safety. One of the really nice things about the Giraud setup is that it trims, chamfers and deburrs in one step. I only need .223 and .308 currently, and it is much easier swapping heads than converting for multiple calipers. Quoted:
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That's about the same setup I'm using except i just have a regular motor not a bench grinder motor. How many RPMs does that motor turn? I looked at the Giraud one too but I figured by the time I got 3 or 4 calibers I might as well get the full blown trimmer setup. Either way you can still sell the individual trimmers without much loss if you decide to upgrade, assuming they are in popular calibers anyway With the WFT I just hit the inside case mouth with a chamfer tool I have set up. The outside of the case mouths come out fine after I wet tumble My setup hits 3,450 RPM. I added a foot switch to it for convenience and safety. One of the really nice things about the Giraud setup is that it trims, chamfers and deburrs in one step. I only need .223 and .308 currently, and it is much easier swapping heads than converting for multiple calipers. 3450 is screaming, even at 1750 the inner race on the WFT wants to spin instead of stopping when you insert a piece of brass. I think it's partly because it's cold in my reloading room because it frees up a little after I run it for awhile I figured with the 3 calibers I'd just go with the wft 2 for now but I would like to eventually get the giraud |
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3450 is screaming, even at 1750 the inner race on the WFT wants to spin instead of stopping when you insert a piece of brass. I think it's partly because it's cold in my reloading room because it frees up a little after I run it for awhile I figured with the 3 calibers I'd just go with the wft 2 for now but I would like to eventually get the giraud The "real" Giraud setup has the motor spinning at 3,000 RPM. |
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The "real" Giraud setup has the motor spinning at 3,000 RPM. Quoted:
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3450 is screaming, even at 1750 the inner race on the WFT wants to spin instead of stopping when you insert a piece of brass. I think it's partly because it's cold in my reloading room because it frees up a little after I run it for awhile I figured with the 3 calibers I'd just go with the wft 2 for now but I would like to eventually get the giraud The "real" Giraud setup has the motor spinning at 3,000 RPM. I think the faster the better usually. The WHAT has a bearing that is too stiff to run it much past 2000rpm though |
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