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1/9/2017 12:10:24 PM EDT
Today I was resizing some .308 brass to reload.  The case neck came off of one of the cases.



In nearly 50 years of reloading many hundreds of thousands of rounds, that is a first for me.

It was a lot of trouble to fix as I has to completely disassemble the die to remove the stuck case from the neck expander.

Anyone ever see this happen before?
1/9/2017 12:13:28 PM EDT
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I've never run into that but I'd rather have it happen on the reloading bench than in my rifle.
1/9/2017 12:21:59 PM EDT
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Cool pic. Thanks for the post. Was it neck sized and turned only?
1/9/2017 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Time to anneal the brass.  Inspect carefully.  It may be time to scrap that batch.
1/9/2017 12:30:45 PM EDT
[#4]
I had over a hundred .223 loaded rounds that were stored in moisture trapping container in a non climate controlled basement room become brittle because of corrosion.

While trying to pull the bullets most just simply cracked like the one in your photo leaving the case neck on the bullet.

Motor
1/9/2017 12:36:24 PM EDT
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Cool pic. Thanks for the post. Was it neck sized and turned only?
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I was full length resizing them as I want to trim them with my Giraud trimmer.
1/9/2017 12:37:05 PM EDT
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Time to anneal the brass.  Inspect carefully.  It may be time to scrap that batch.
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That may indeed be an issue, but these were once-fired cases.
1/9/2017 12:51:46 PM EDT
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that is quite scary actually
1/9/2017 1:21:49 PM EDT
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Double tap
1/9/2017 1:22:58 PM EDT
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I was full length resizing them as I want to trim them with my Giraud trimmer.
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So its once fired brass. Thats crazy.

Headstamp info pleas.
1/9/2017 1:28:51 PM EDT
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So its once fired brass. Thats crazy.

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FC 308 WIN

It was very hard to pull the expander through the necks of this brass.  I was using mica powder to lube the necks and then switched to powdered graphite which seemed to do a better job.

Maybe this was just a freak bad case.  I've never seen this before.
1/9/2017 1:42:22 PM EDT
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FC 308 WIN

It was very hard to pull the expander through the necks of this brass.  I was using mica powder to lube the necks and then switched to powdered graphite which seemed to do a better job.

Maybe this was just a freak bad case.  I've never seen this before.
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It is weird, that's for sure.

Any chance it might've had some kind of odd primer, like one of those new lead free primers?  I'm not aware that the new lead free primers cause brass to be brittle or anything, but I know almost nothing about these primers other than that they exist.  Maybe the chemistry of the new primers damages the cases?
1/9/2017 3:07:41 PM EDT
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Nope, regular Federal Benchrest primers that I have used for years.
1/9/2017 3:22:00 PM EDT
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Never seen that one before. That would have ruined the following round had it given up the ghost in your rifle.
1/9/2017 3:27:11 PM EDT
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I had it happen with a batch of Remington .338 Mag.

It was a third loading for the batch though and likely could've used annealing prior to that. I just tossed the whole lot.
1/9/2017 4:02:56 PM EDT
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Never seen that one before. That would have ruined the following round had it given up the ghost in your rifle.
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My best guess is that the next round would not have chambered.  But if I was lucky, it might have stuck on the next round and extracted.
1/9/2017 4:09:08 PM EDT
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Seen it plenty way down on the case body. Never on the neck like that. Odd.

I would regard that lot of brass with suspicion.

If it happened in a chamber I assume a broken shell extractor should remove it...
1/9/2017 5:42:47 PM EDT
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I doubt it would have broken off in the chamber. That's completely a different set of conditions. Plus in the chamber it would be "worked" in one direction only not squeezed down then forced open again.

You have to take into consideration too that the brass is worked more in each direction than what the end result is. This of course is because it springs back in both directions.

Motor
1/9/2017 6:05:12 PM EDT
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I've not seen a neck pop like that. I did have a 223 case separate about 1/4" above the base once.

After a little head scratching trying to figure out the best way to get the remaining case out without damaging the die I remembered I had a 223 broken shell extractor.

I pulled the expander ball and stem. took the broken shell extractor apart, top half into the top of the die and bottom half thru the bottom of the die then screwing it together until it gripped the neck. I then raised the ram and slipped the shell holder over the broken shell extractor base and into the ram at the same time.

tossed a pinch of powder over my shoulder and gave the ram a push, case popped right out
1/9/2017 6:27:59 PM EDT
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I've not seen a neck pop like that. I did have a 223 case separate about 1/4" above the base once.
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I've not seen a neck pop like that. I did have a 223 case separate about 1/4" above the base once.


Seen that many times with .303 British.  Very common.  I have a broken czase extractor in my range bag for the .303.

After a little head scratching trying to figure out the best way to get the remaining case out without damaging the die I remembered I had a 223 broken shell extractor.

I pulled the expander ball and stem. took the broken shell extractor apart, top half into the top of the die and bottom half thru the bottom of the die then screwing it together until it gripped the neck. I then raised the ram and slipped the shell holder over the broken shell extractor base and into the ram at the same time.

tossed a pinch of powder over my shoulder and gave the ram a push, case popped right out


I backed the expander ball assembly all the way down and out of the die.  Put it in a vice and used a screw driver and hammer to gently knock the stuck neck off of the expander.  Lubed it up really well, reassembled, and finished the lot of cases with plenty of graphite on the necks, inside and out.

Reloading is an adventure.
1/9/2017 8:22:09 PM EDT
[#20]
As a machinist I've seen metal do strange things. Glad to hear you got everything back and running.
1/10/2017 12:01:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Front fell off.

Never happened to me, but has happened to my dad once or twice, though that was probably some old LC .30-06.
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