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Posted: 8/10/2016 9:55:05 AM EDT
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off.
Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. |
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Good tip but how do u know Cascade doesnt harm brass? I took 5 cases and put it on the brass and rubbed it around with my hand. The lube visually came right off (it had some burnt powder residue in with it). So then I did a test batch. I compared the test batch to previous batches and did not see any difference. Now on the microscopic level? Don't know but I put pots and pans and spoons and aluminum trays in my dishwasher hundreds of times. My dishwasher is full of metal too. I guess I'll say use at your own risk as I've done no scientific studies. |
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off. Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. |
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I use 14-20 grit plain corn cob in a dry tumbler. Takes about a half hour to remove the lube and no dry time. Cases are already cleaned from the wet tumble before sizing. No dust with quality corn cob and a dryer sheet in the tumbler.  That's cheap pet store corn cob in the white container that will clog the flasholes. |
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So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. Quoted:
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off. Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. Actually it was dillon case lube for the first batch I tried wet tumbling. 1/2 of the 5 gallon bucket. The second half was the lanolin alcohol blend after I ran out of the DCL. Dillon lube vs. custom mix was the same. Many have complained on various forums the dillon is a little difficult with wet tumbling. And as I stated, dry tumbling isn't what I use ans seems to do better at soaking up the lanolin. Wet tumbling has problems because the lanolin resists water removal. I suppose its hydrophobic. That's where the cascade helped. I greatly prefer wet over dry because the cases look brand new when Im done Pretty, huh? 
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I use 14-20 grit plain corn cob in a dry tumbler. Takes about a half hour to remove the lube and no dry time. Cases are already cleaned from the wet tumble before sizing. No dust with quality corn cob and a dryer sheet in the tumbler. https://www.zoro.com/value-brand-blast-media-corn-cob-14-to-20-grit-526020g-40/i/G1695775/ <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg</a> That's cheap pet store corn cob in the white container that will clog the flasholes. I no longer use dry tumbler. Just too messy and got tired of the flash hole picking. I see theres better media but didnt know about that at the time |
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Quoted: I no longer use dry tumbler. Just too messy and got tired of the flash hole picking. I see theres better media but didnt know about that at the time Quoted: Quoted: I use 14-20 grit plain corn cob in a dry tumbler. Takes about a half hour to remove the lube and no dry time. Cases are already cleaned from the wet tumble before sizing. No dust with quality corn cob and a dryer sheet in the tumbler. https://www.zoro.com/value-brand-blast-media-corn-cob-14-to-20-grit-526020g-40/i/G1695775/ <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg</a> That's cheap pet store corn cob in the white container that will clog the flasholes. I no longer use dry tumbler. Just too messy and got tired of the flash hole picking. I see theres better media but didnt know about that at the time |
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Actually it was dillon case lube for the first batch I tried wet tumbling. 1/2 of the 5 gallon bucket. The second half was the lanolin alcohol blend after I ran out of the DCL. Dillon lube vs. custom mix was the same. Many have complained on various forums the dillon is a little difficult with wet tumbling. And as I stated, dry tumbling isn't what I use ans seems to do better at soaking up the lanolin. Wet tumbling has problems because the lanolin resists water removal. I suppose its hydrophobic. That's where the cascade helped. I greatly prefer wet over dry because the cases look brand new when Im done Pretty, huh? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DrMatthew/b3e11b3ece78f5eb45195ed7c904dc66_zps8x1agyty.jpg Quoted:
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off. Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. Actually it was dillon case lube for the first batch I tried wet tumbling. 1/2 of the 5 gallon bucket. The second half was the lanolin alcohol blend after I ran out of the DCL. Dillon lube vs. custom mix was the same. Many have complained on various forums the dillon is a little difficult with wet tumbling. And as I stated, dry tumbling isn't what I use ans seems to do better at soaking up the lanolin. Wet tumbling has problems because the lanolin resists water removal. I suppose its hydrophobic. That's where the cascade helped. I greatly prefer wet over dry because the cases look brand new when Im done Pretty, huh? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DrMatthew/b3e11b3ece78f5eb45195ed7c904dc66_zps8x1agyty.jpg You resize the brass when dirty, then wet tumble? |
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off. Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. Actually it was dillon case lube for the first batch I tried wet tumbling. 1/2 of the 5 gallon bucket. The second half was the lanolin alcohol blend after I ran out of the DCL. Dillon lube vs. custom mix was the same. Many have complained on various forums the dillon is a little difficult with wet tumbling. And as I stated, dry tumbling isn't what I use ans seems to do better at soaking up the lanolin. Wet tumbling has problems because the lanolin resists water removal. I suppose its hydrophobic. That's where the cascade helped. I greatly prefer wet over dry because the cases look brand new when Im done Pretty, huh? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DrMatthew/b3e11b3ece78f5eb45195ed7c904dc66_zps8x1agyty.jpg You resize the brass when dirty, then wet tumble? I did this time. It is once fired lake city brass from a local firing range. It was fired in a closed setting and not subject to dirt or the elements. It was pretty clean to begin with, so I decided to remove crimp, resize and trim with an RT1500 trimmer. Wet tumbling with ss media deburred the brass and its shiny clean. Normally, if it is range pick ups, i wet clean and dry breifly. If it is my own fired brass, its of a small quantity and I do pre clean. This was a 5 gallon bucket and it would of taken much longer to wet clean twice. |
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Not a high volume rifle loader (yet), but I've had good luck with the following:
Tumble dirty brass with Turtle Wax car wash and no pins for about an hour. Let dry (shake a lot while dumping the brass then let sit for a few days, occasionally shaking up in a towel) Resize/Deprime then trim and deburr Tumble again with the car wash and no pins for about 20 minutes Let dry for a day |
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A few tablespoons of mineral spirits in your tumbling media should resolve the situation. I'm still trying to wrap my head around sizing dirty brass, then tumbling it. It seems counter-intuitive to me somehow, but by all means party on! I get what you are saying. This stuff is by no means my precision stuff. Ive already got my good lake city set aside for that. Once you load for a nice bolt action precision rifle, 223 seems like a step child. Most of the dirtiness is carbon deposits, the lube and the dies push it out of the way. All is in spec wtith the case guage though. And I used the micrometer ever blue tray to make sure the length was consistent. Along with the case guage |
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Quoted: I use 14-20 grit plain corn cob in a dry tumbler. Takes about a half hour to remove the lube and no dry time. Cases are already cleaned from the wet tumble before sizing. No dust with quality corn cob and a dryer sheet in the tumbler. https://www.zoro.com/value-brand-blast-media-corn-cob-14-to-20-grit-526020g-40/i/G1695775/ http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg That's cheap pet store corn cob in the white container that will clog the flasholes. How long will you use the media before it becomes clogged with lube? |
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Quoted: How long will you use the media before it becomes clogged with lube? Quoted: Quoted: I use 14-20 grit plain corn cob in a dry tumbler. Takes about a half hour to remove the lube and no dry time. Cases are already cleaned from the wet tumble before sizing. No dust with quality corn cob and a dryer sheet in the tumbler. https://www.zoro.com/value-brand-blast-media-corn-cob-14-to-20-grit-526020g-40/i/G1695775/ http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Tumbling/P5290111.jpg That's cheap pet store corn cob in the white container that will clog the flasholes. How long will you use the media before it becomes clogged with lube? You use it until it quits cleaning. Hard to say, how much lube do you use? For me about a year. |
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Quoted: I have a hard time believing that brass is that fragile. Quoted: Quoted: Good tip but how do u know Cascade doesnt harm brass? I have a hard time believing that brass is that fragile. If a product contains either, it's not suitable for cleaning brass. Brasso is one such product that should be avoided. |
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So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. Quoted:
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A little observation. I used up my Dillon Lube this past week and mixed a batch of lanolin and 99% alcohol. Needless to say, the lanolin is difficult to get off. I was processing a 5 gallon bucket of brass and using wet technique. You can wipe your brass with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol with a cloth prior to wet tumbling, but a 5 gallon bucket is a big task. Normally I use a long squirt of Dawn and lemi-shine. The cases were still a bit slick with lube after 2 hours of tumbling. So. I started to add a small squirt of Cascade dish washing soap and everything came off the first time on subsequent batches. Thought I'd offer that up if you have problems getting lube off. Some use walnut and do a dry clean. I don't use dry method any longer and have opted for stainless steel media and wet tumbling. Longer squirts of Dawn might help but found it unnecessary once I added a bit of cascade. Cascade didn't harm the brass and it is very shiny and clean. So it wasn't dillon case lube, as your title states?? All I've ever used is dillon lube, corn cob tumble it off. Never experienced it not being removed within 20-30 min of tumbling. I use the Dillon lube and the arfcom recommended mix ratio of lanolin and 99% isopropyl. I clean off my lube with a couple towels. I lay one towel flat and take a smaller one and put mineral spirits on it. Rub a dub and the cases are clean. When I tried to wet tumble it off, I ended up with a nasty black mess. I do this process outside on a 3' round patio table. It only takes a few minutes and I do 100-200 cases at a time. I like the fact that I don't need to wait for cases to dry. If I am loading Varget in .223 cases, I clean inside the necks with alcohol and a q-tip. Now that I changed to TAC, I no longer clean the necks. |
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