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9/19/2015 9:04:06 AM EDT
This is probably going to seem like a stupid question but. I've been loading .45 ACP and 9x19 Luger using FMJ bullets. I can get four times the amount of lead bullets for like 1/3 the price of jacketed bullets.

I'm paying $25+/- for .45 ACP per 100 bullets and $12+/- for 9x19 Luger for 100. I found I can get 500 .45 ACP for around $50 and 500 9x19 Luger for $30 or so.

My question is, will switching to lead bullets negatively affect either of my Semiautomatic pistols?
9/19/2015 9:18:24 AM EDT
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Depends on the pistol.

I find the extra filthiness undesireable.    If you want to go cheaper than FMJ without the dirtiness of lead, look at coated bullets from The Blue Bullets, Bayou, BBI, and others.

The only reason I see for using plain lead bullets is if I'm casting them myself.
9/19/2015 9:31:06 AM EDT
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This is probably going to seem like a stupid question but. I've been loading .45 ACP and 9x19 Luger using FMJ bullets. I can get four times the amount of lead bullets for like 1/3 the price of jacketed bullets.

I'm paying $25+/- for .45 ACP per 100 bullets and $12+/- for 9x19 Luger for 100. I found I can get 500 .45 ACP for around $50 and 500 9x19 Luger for $30 or so.

My question is, will switching to lead bullets negatively affect either of my Semiautomatic pistols?
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it wont hurt your guns at all. a little more cleaning possibly.
try looking at powder coated bullets as a compromise.
or get into casting them yourself
9/19/2015 9:41:48 AM EDT
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I saw coated bullets too. Is the load data different for coated bullets?
9/19/2015 9:43:37 AM EDT
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.

9/19/2015 9:44:03 AM EDT
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dont think so, I only recently discovered the PC bullets too. still learning.
9/19/2015 9:57:41 AM EDT
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Not that I've found.  You can load them closer to FMJ data than lead.
9/19/2015 10:01:46 AM EDT
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.

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I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.
9/19/2015 10:13:44 AM EDT
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I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.



I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.


You may also find some deals on the EE..

NJ.. dang. Move to Texas!...
9/19/2015 10:15:11 AM EDT
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NJ.. dang. Move to Texas!...
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.



I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.


You may also find some deals on the EE..

NJ.. dang. Move to Texas!...


Wife and I are planning an escape. There's just a few more years left jn this prison.
9/19/2015 10:36:07 AM EDT
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Use lead load data for coated bullets.
9/19/2015 10:49:06 AM EDT
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I buy thousand and thousands or plated bullets from Xtreme.  

They've been fairly accurate and easy to use.      

About 13 cents each for 45ACP and about 10 cents each for 147g 9mm.  

I've recently gotten into casting myself which is something my father has done since the 70s.  

I've only casted about 700 rounds between 45acp and 9mm and have had awesome results in accuracy out of LWD barrels in Glocks.  

I also have thousands of rounds of 40S&W in lead that were giving to me for use by my old man that I shoot out of my M&P.    

Lead may be just slightly more dirty that plated or jacketed but I think it's all in the lube you are using.  

I must admit, I actually like the smell of using 45/45/10 tumble lube both applying it and shooting it.  The results are so good I don't even want to bother with powder coating.
9/19/2015 10:57:41 AM EDT
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I buy thousand and thousands or plated bullets from Xtreme.  

They've been fairly accurate and easy to use.      

About 13 cents each for 45ACP and about 10 cents each for 147g 9mm.  

I've recently gotten into casting myself which is something my father has done since the 70s.  

I've only casted about 700 rounds between 45acp and 9mm and have had awesome results in accuracy out of LWD barrels in Glocks.  

I also have thousands of rounds of 40S&W in lead that were giving to me for use by my old man that I shoot out of my M&P.    

Lead may be just slightly more dirty that plated or jacketed but I think it's all in the lube you are using.  

I must admit, I actually like the smell of using 45/45/10 tumble lube both applying it and shooting it.  The results are so good I don't even want to bother with powder coating.
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There is a difference between powder coating your own cast bullets and just buying the Hi-tek coated bullets from vendors like Bayou Bullets, BBI or SnS Casting. I prefer to buy!
9/19/2015 11:07:23 AM EDT
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Totally understand.  Didn't mean to shift the focus of the discussion.  

It's been a while since I've looked into it, but I seem to recall the price difference between plated and coated or even just lubed cast lead for purchase was either the same or negligible.  That being said, I've prefered to stick with plated.   Now if I can pick up powder coated rounds for say 10 cents a round for 45ACP the I'd most definitely give them a try.   Instead of flapping my egums, I'll have to see what is available now a days.
9/19/2015 3:51:49 PM EDT
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.
9/19/2015 4:15:50 PM EDT
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.
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No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!

eta: I keep saying to use lead load data, but the reality is, like with all reloading data, start low and work up. That being said, in my experience of loading 25K+ of coated lead bullets, lead data is a good starting point.


9/19/2015 4:20:06 PM EDT
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No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.


No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!


OK cool. I'll order some coated bullets and give then a try. Thanks for the help.
9/19/2015 4:31:17 PM EDT
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OK cool. I'll order some coated bullets and give then a try. Thanks for the help.
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.


No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!


OK cool. I'll order some coated bullets and give then a try. Thanks for the help.


No problem.

What type of guns are you trying to feed? And for what purpose? If you are playing one of the gun games like USPSA or IDPA and have to make certain power factor I can help with more data.
9/19/2015 4:37:46 PM EDT
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Totally understand.  Didn't mean to shift the focus of the discussion.  

It's been a while since I've looked into it, but I seem to recall the price difference between plated and coated or even just lubed cast lead for purchase was either the same or negligible.  That being said, I've prefered to stick with plated.   Now if I can pick up powder coated rounds for say 10 cents a round for 45ACP the I'd most definitely give them a try.   Instead of flapping my egums, I'll have to see what is available now a days.
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There is a difference between powder coating your own cast bullets and just buying the Hi-tek coated bullets from vendors like Bayou Bullets, BBI or SnS Casting. I prefer to buy!


Totally understand.  Didn't mean to shift the focus of the discussion.  

It's been a while since I've looked into it, but I seem to recall the price difference between plated and coated or even just lubed cast lead for purchase was either the same or negligible.  That being said, I've prefered to stick with plated.   Now if I can pick up powder coated rounds for say 10 cents a round for 45ACP the I'd most definitely give them a try.   Instead of flapping my egums, I'll have to see what is available now a days.


You can get 2k 230gr coated lead bullets shipped to your door for $223 from SnS Casting, that's less than $.09 per bullet.
9/19/2015 4:38:09 PM EDT
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No problem.

What type of guns are you trying to feed? And for what purpose? If you are playing one of the gun games like USPSA or IDPA and have to make certain power factor I can help with more data.
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.


No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!


OK cool. I'll order some coated bullets and give then a try. Thanks for the help.


No problem.

What type of guns are you trying to feed? And for what purpose? If you are playing one of the gun games like USPSA or IDPA and have to make certain power factor I can help with more data.


1911 and a 92FS. Just for plinking.
9/19/2015 4:43:40 PM EDT
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IMO, 45acp and lead bullets are a match made in heaven.
I have burned through many tens of thousands of 200gr LSWC for my plinking rounds.
The lube is a little dirty, but cleans off easily.  I shoot out of doors.  I do not shoot Pb at indoor ranges.

You can order them online through Missouri Bullet, or Penn, etc.
For example, you can get 185gr Pb from Missouri for 8.2 cents.
They will also sell you coated 185gr for 9.7 cents.

To be economical regarding shipping, you need to order enough quantity to completely fill a USPS flat rate box.



9/19/2015 4:48:42 PM EDT
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So if I were to go with coated bullets what do I need to do different to load them? With FMJ/TMJ/JHPs I don't use any lube on them. I'm assuming they'd need to be lived from comments here.


No lube needed.

In fact, most of the companies that sell the Hi-tek coated bullets had custom molds made eliminating the lube ring.

Load using lead load data, don't over crimp the bullets. Enjoy!


OK cool. I'll order some coated bullets and give then a try. Thanks for the help.


No problem.

What type of guns are you trying to feed? And for what purpose? If you are playing one of the gun games like USPSA or IDPA and have to make certain power factor I can help with more data.


1911 and a 92FS. Just for plinking.


So nothing special, just pick your prefered bullet weight for each caliber and start with lead data from your chosen powder maker. I am a big fan of Tightgroup powder for 9mm, .40 and 45acp, low charge weight meters well thru my Dillion 650xl.

Enjoy!
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So nothing special, just pick your prefered bullet weight for each caliber and start with lead data from your chosen powder maker. I am a big fan of Tightgroup powder for 9mm, .40 and 45acp, low charge weight meters well thru my Dillion 650xl.

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Nope, nothing special. I love Titegroup. Its all I've been using for 9mm, 38 and 45.
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IMO, 45acp and lead bullets are a match made in heaven.
I have burned through many tens of thousands of 200gr LSWC for my plinking rounds.
The lube is a little dirty, but cleans off easily.  I shoot out of doors.  I do not shoot Pb at indoor ranges.

You can order them online through Missouri Bullet, or Penn, etc.
For example, you can get 185gr Pb from Missouri for 8.2 cents.
They will also sell you coated 185gr for 9.7 cents.

To be economical regarding shipping, you need to order enough quantity to completely fill a USPS flat rate box.



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You haven't had a problem with leading the barrel of your gun using straight lead bullets? I've been loading FMJ/TMJ/JHPs for awhile and it hasn't been cheap.
9/19/2015 5:14:07 PM EDT
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I cast my own and within the last month started powder coating so I'm a little out of touch with "buying" bullets.

The last time I looked it seemed like buying plated bullets was the best option for someone who can't cast their own. Has this changed?

OP. The 45acp is not finicky.  If you buy coated or cast for your 9mm make sure they are designed for 9mm pressure. The 9mm is a hot little round even loaded down to where it will just work the action. You need a bullet that will take the pressure. Coating is no substitute for good alloy. It can get you a couple points on the hardness requirements but that's all.

Motor
9/19/2015 6:16:33 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.



http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.










Some of my home cast PC bullets.
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.

http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.



<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>


Some of my home cast PC bullets.
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Damn, Extreme has some good prices.
9/19/2015 6:47:07 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.



http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>





Some of my home cast PC bullets.





Damn, Extreme has some good prices.




 
I have tried the other 2 brands of plated bullets. Extreme's always shot the best for me.




Bookmark the site, and check every day for the sale, or just sign up for the email flyer.
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This tells me you weren't reading every post. ;)  

It's ok though, I'm bad about that too!
9/19/2015 6:49:13 PM EDT
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Once you buy from them you can opt for their daily email sales.  

Everyday it's usually 5% off of something.   I think it's 5% every day for our veterans.
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Once you buy from them you can opt for their daily email sales.  

Everyday it's usually 5% off of something.   I think it's 5% every day for our veterans.
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Bookmark the site, and check every day for the sale, or just sign up for the email flyer.


Once you buy from them you can opt for their daily email sales.  

Everyday it's usually 5% off of something.   I think it's 5% every day for our veterans.


I bookmarked the site and have already signed up for their emails.

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This tells me you weren't reading every post. ;)  

It's ok though, I'm bad about that too!


I read every post, just haven't clicked on every link that was given yet.
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If you buy coated or cast for your 9mm make sure they are designed for 9mm pressure. The 9mm is a hot little round even loaded down to where it will just work the action. You need a bullet that will take the pressure. Coating is no substitute for good alloy. It can get you a couple points on the hardness requirements but that's all.

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I am running the Hi-tek coated bullets thru an 9mm Open gun. While I am still doing load development, trying to find the right feel and gas to work the compensator, I am pushing 125gr Blue Bullets at 1425fps and the next batch for testing will be a 115gr SNS Casting that will need to be around 1500fps for what I need it to be. I wouldn't even try this without having done some research, and getting the go ahead from the bullet makers themselves.

I have already run 500rds of the aforementioned 125gr Blue Bullets load, with great accuracy results and no gun issues at all. I am just needing a bit more gas to run the comp to flatten out the gun a bit more.

So, trust me when I say, the coated bullets will be absolutely fine for normal power 9mm loads.

Not to mention the 25k coated bullets from Bayou that I have put thru my .40 Limited guns using Tightgroup powder.


9/19/2015 8:06:31 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.



http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>





Some of my home cast PC bullets.





Damn, Extreme has some good prices.




 
That's what I was using before I found Hi-Tek coated bullets. I get a little better accuracy with the coated bullets, at a little lower cost.
9/19/2015 9:26:42 PM EDT
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I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.



I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.

we could split a bulk buy..i need 45 acp 230gr fmj

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9/19/2015 9:32:36 PM EDT
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we could split a bulk buy..i need 45 acp 230gr fmj

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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.

There are a bunch of cheaper options. You need to buy in bulk.

I run lead only in calibers which were made for it. 38S&W, black powder 45LC, 44-40, 45-70 etc...

In 9mm, if you are ok with 115gr, then buy the Hornady bulk packs that go on sale often. PSA had the 3k packs for 199 on sale. I bought 3 for my friend and I. <8c/bullet shipped. Lead will cost you that.

For 45acp, I love the 185gr ones from Nosler. I get a lot of Nosler blems from SPS. They also have 230, etc... Bit more at 12-14c each depending on sale.

Lead is filthy.. Leave it to the filthy calibers IMO. I love shooting those, but the filth adds to it.

Glocks don't like lead either. I hate glocks anyway but that's another matter.



I know. I haven't found a decent place to source bullets from. Living in NJ doesn't make it easy either as there's no where to get them locally.

we could split a bulk buy..i need 45 acp 230gr fmj

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I'm cool with that. I'll PM you.
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You are not looking in the right places for plated and jacketed bullets. You are paying way too much.



we could split a bulk buy..i need 45 acp 230gr fmj



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I'm cool with that. I'll PM you.





 
That would be good, as making deals in threads is not allowed by the COC.




Doing it in IM's is just fine.
9/20/2015 11:11:52 AM EDT
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You can get 2k 230gr coated lead bullets shipped to your door for $223 from SnS Casting, that's less than $.09 per bullet.
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There is a difference between powder coating your own cast bullets and just buying the Hi-tek coated bullets from vendors like Bayou Bullets, BBI or SnS Casting. I prefer to buy!


Totally understand.  Didn't mean to shift the focus of the discussion.  

It's been a while since I've looked into it, but I seem to recall the price difference between plated and coated or even just lubed cast lead for purchase was either the same or negligible.  That being said, I've prefered to stick with plated.   Now if I can pick up powder coated rounds for say 10 cents a round for 45ACP the I'd most definitely give them a try.   Instead of flapping my egums, I'll have to see what is available now a days.


You can get 2k 230gr coated lead bullets shipped to your door for $223 from SnS Casting, that's less than $.09 per bullet.


$.1115 / ea
9/20/2015 11:20:43 AM EDT
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Has anyone tried to push the extreme plated bullets at higher velocity?

I was reading at the extreme site, the bullets are just pure soft lead with a copper plating.
9/20/2015 11:31:01 AM EDT
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I for the most part load them to jacketed specs in 9mm 40 and 45.  I've not noticed no ill effects.  

I load the 38 caliber xtremes to no more than a plus P load.   I have not pushed them to 357mag loads and likely never will.
9/20/2015 12:54:58 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.

http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.



<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>


Some of my home cast PC bullets.
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What mold are you using for your 230gr 45acp?
9/20/2015 1:28:17 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.

http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.



<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>


Some of my home cast PC bullets.



What mold are you using for your 230gr 45acp?



I may be wrong on this but when dryflash was helping me with some feeding issues a while back it sounds like he was using the same mold I was which is the Lee Bullet Mold 452-228-1R 45 ACP.
9/20/2015 6:33:02 PM EDT
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I loading to about 2000 fps in 7.62x39.




Think of plated bullets as best for 3/4 powder loads.




But some calibers can go full velocity for that caliber. Like 30 carbine and pistol rounds.
9/20/2015 6:34:39 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.
http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>
Some of my home cast PC bullets.




What mold are you using for your 230gr 45acp?






 
That's from a Lee 6 cavity, the 1R mold.



 





eta, this one http://www.midwayusa.com/product/313971/lee-6-cavity-bullet-mold-452-228-1r-45-acp-45-auto-rim-45-colt-long-colt-452-diameter-228-grain-1-ogive-radius?cm_vc=ProductFinding


 



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9/20/2015 8:16:08 PM EDT
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If I didn't cast my own bullets and powder coat them, I would buy plated bullets from Extreme.





http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>
Some of my home cast PC bullets.



What mold are you using for your 230gr 45acp?



  That's from a Lee 6 cavity, the 2R mold.


 





eta, this one http://www.midwayusa.com/product/313971/lee-6-cavity-bullet-mold-452-228-1r-45-acp-45-auto-rim-45-colt-long-colt-452-diameter-228-grain-1-ogive-radius?cm_vc=ProductFinding


Not trying to tell you your business dry, but the link you just gave for the 2R is a tumble lube boolit, and the ones in your pictures look like a 2 grease groove lube boolit?    





I do want to try that 6 cavity tumble lube mold you posted though.
 



edit to fix my link. dryflash3
9/21/2015 12:09:52 AM EDT
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Not trying to tell you your business dry, but the link you just gave for the 2R is a tumble lube boolit, and the ones in your pictures look like a 2 grease groove lube boolit?    



I do want to try that 6 cavity tumble lube mold you posted though.
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http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-s/9666.htm every day is a different caliber/bullet at 5% off. Big holidays they run free shipping.
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a>





Some of my home cast PC bullets.







What mold are you using for your 230gr 45acp?


  That's from a Lee 6 cavity, the 2R mold.

 



eta, this one http://www.midwayusa.com/product/313971/lee-6-cavity-bullet-mold-452-228-1r-45-acp-45-auto-rim-45-colt-long-colt-452-diameter-228-grain-1-ogive-radius?cm_vc=ProductFinding







Not trying to tell you your business dry, but the link you just gave for the 2R is a tumble lube boolit, and the ones in your pictures look like a 2 grease groove lube boolit?    



I do want to try that 6 cavity tumble lube mold you posted though.




 
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9/21/2015 7:25:05 PM EDT
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Another vote for Extreme Bullets.

I just had another 2k 230gn .45 ACP delivered last week. $226.20 shipped or $0.113 each.
I waited for the 5% off of the .45 ACP bullets.

I also use their 124gn 9mm and 158gn RN and SWC in .38/.357.

I'll be getting some of their .380 when I shoot up the last of my Berry's.
9/21/2015 7:31:05 PM EDT
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Another vote for Extreme Bullets.

I just had another 2k 230gn .45 ACP delivered last week. $226.20 shipped or $0.113 each.
I waited for the 5% off of the .45 ACP bullets.

I also use their 124gn 9mm and 158gn RN and SWC in .38/.357.

I'll be getting some of their .380 when I shoot up the last of my Berry's.
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I'm going to order Extreme Bullets in a few days.
9/21/2015 7:49:17 PM EDT
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HEY OP. Life fun in NJ ain't it.
Do you, by chance, shoot at CJRPC? There is a guy who is a member who sells cast bullets, lubed and ready. If you aren't a member, next time I go, I'll get his card.

BTW I shoot nothing but lead, and PC. It  isn't so bad.
9/21/2015 7:50:01 PM EDT
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I just had another 2k 230gn .45 ACP delivered last week. $226.20 shipped or $0.113 each.

I waited for the 5% off of the .45 ACP bullets.



I also use their 124gn 9mm and 158gn RN and SWC in .38/.357.



I'll be getting some of their .380 when I shoot up the last of my Berry's.




I'm going to order Extreme Bullets in a few days.




 
I think you will be happy with them.
9/21/2015 8:31:51 PM EDT
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Depends on the pistol.

I find the extra filthiness undesireable.    If you want to go cheaper than FMJ without the dirtiness of lead, look at coated bullets from The Blue Bullets, Bayou, BBI, and others.

The only reason I see for using plain lead bullets is if I'm casting them myself.
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Could anyone tell about their experiences with any of these companies ? I saw that Blue bullets and BBI have free shipping and with the 3800/3900 pack of 9mm 115gr, that works out to $.063 a bullet !!
9/21/2015 9:13:59 PM EDT
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MRBLACK947. I use the .452" 200gr TC TL Lee. As far as TL moulds go I've had very good results with them. The 9mm did take some experimenting to get working good but the 9mm can be finicky.

I powder coat now and I use the shake and bake method. Sometimes also called the tumble method. I have been following the threads on powder coating very closely and it's becoming very apparent that the Lee tumble lube type bullets do very well with powder coating.

I have to agree with this. But in fact powder coating has worked great on every bullet I've used it on.

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