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1/1/2015 6:58:16 PM EDT
Setting up my reloading press and the cases are coming out damaged.

Do I have something set up wrong?


1/1/2015 7:04:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Look like hydraulic dents caused by too much case lube.
1/1/2015 7:06:02 PM EDT
[#2]
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Look like hydraulic dents caused by too much case lube.
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Yup.  Too much lube.
1/1/2015 7:06:07 PM EDT
[#3]
A classic case of too much case lube.

Be a bit more frugal with the lube. Go slowly as you size and if the case starts to stick - STOP - and pull it back out and relube.

You can still use these cases btw. Especially if you're loading plinking rounds. Or save these for plinking rounds.
1/1/2015 7:30:35 PM EDT
[#4]
As others have said... Too much lube...  What lube were you using? Try Dillon case lube or a lanolin type variant..
1/1/2015 7:33:48 PM EDT
[#5]
New dies? New dies need to be cleaned prior to being used. There is a vent hole in the side of every die, in the center of where the case shoulder sits inside the die. This will can clogged with polishing compounds or anti-rust coatings applied by the factory making it impossible for the lube and trapped air to vent anywhere.

Clean your die thoroughly using a paper clip to clear any gunk that might be clogging your die's vent hole. Use less lube, making sure you don't get any on the case shoulder and only the absolute smallest amount possible on the case neck. Most people get by just fine without putting any lube on the neck, but I turn the mouth of each case angled against my lightly lubed fingers to ease it's entry into the die.

I use Imperial Sizing Die Wax and a light coat at that. I don't believe spray on case lubes are heavy enough for rifle cases so I use them exclusively on handgun brass even when resizing with carbide dies. It helps smooth the operation.

Twenty years ago I used RCBS lube with a pad but discarded that process when I discovered Imperial. Good Luck.
1/1/2015 7:34:55 PM EDT
[#6]
The others are correct, I think.

I would remove the sizing die and clean it out with brake cleaner, etc.  Also make sure the vent on the die is open.

Use a little less lube.  Try Hornady one shot spray lube, other brands are good too.

Good luck!
1/1/2015 7:49:55 PM EDT
[#7]
I use hornady one-shot spray as well. The plugged vent hole has caused me problems too.

Why does it always seem the vent hole is hidden under the locknut? Surely there has to be a better way!
1/1/2015 8:08:27 PM EDT
[#8]

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New dies? New dies need to be cleaned prior to being used. There is a vent hole in the side of every die, in the center of where the case shoulder sits inside the die. This will can clogged with polishing compounds or anti-rust coatings applied by the factory making it impossible for the lube and trapped air to vent anywhere.



Clean your die thoroughly using a paper clip to clear any gunk that might be clogging your die's vent hole. Use less lube, making sure you don't get any on the case shoulder and only the absolute smallest amount possible on the case neck. Most people get by just fine without putting any lube on the neck, but I turn the mouth of each case angled against my lightly lubed fingers to ease it's entry into the die.



I use Imperial Sizing Die Wax and a light coat at that. I don't believe spray on case lubes are heavy enough for rifle cases so I use them exclusively on handgun brass even when resizing with carbide dies. It helps smooth the operation.



Twenty years ago I used RCBS lube with a pad but discarded that process when I discovered Imperial. Good Luck.
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I still use the RCBS case lube pad.




I've had the same exact problem with 6mm Rem brass, but using the pad I don't get much lube on the shoulder if any at all and I could not figure it out. I use the same amount of lube every time. I tried using a bit less case lube and cleaning the die and vent hole with the same results. I ended up switching from a Redding die to RCBS die I had laying around and it fixed the problem. It still bugs me that I couldn't figure it out.
1/1/2015 8:50:48 PM EDT
[#9]
It's obvious you don't own a reloading manual so you need to get one and read it because every one of them cover hydraulic dents.
1/1/2015 9:00:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Thanks all,

I was using Hornady one shot spray lube. New dies that I cleaned and hit with a shot of the spray lube.

I'll clean everything off and start again.

MonkTx, I do have a reloading manual but wanted an experienced reloader's opinion.
1/1/2015 9:27:25 PM EDT
[#11]
I don't wanna start a war, but try Dillon case lube. I used to use One Shot and Lee. Tried DCL and the pan method, and everything started going a lot better.

DCL for me from here on out.
1/1/2015 9:47:52 PM EDT
[#12]
I have had a piece of walnut stuck before. But usually lube related.
1/1/2015 9:51:17 PM EDT
[#13]
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Setting up my reloading press and the cases are coming out damaged.

Do I have something set up wrong?

<a href="http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/411989/media/Reloading/20150101_163257-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r548/411989/Reloading/20150101_163257-1.jpg</a>
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Also, it looks like you are setting the shoulder back a lot.
1/2/2015 6:01:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Those dents are obvious but I'm concerned with the mouths.  What's with the nasty striations "inside" the mouths?

I suspect there is more than just hydraulic dents at work here.
1/2/2015 12:18:16 PM EDT
[#15]
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I don't wanna start a war, but try Dillon case lube.
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I'll start one, no problem.  One Shot should be gotten rid of.  

Almost ALL of the lube-related problems on this board are caused by One Shot.  Some can get it to work, many cannot.  I say, why bother?  

Get Dillon or Imperial or both and end your lube troubles forever.
1/2/2015 1:16:39 PM EDT
[#16]
I think it's almost impossible to get the dents shown in your pictures when using One Shot. It's too thin to begin with which leads me to believe you have some other problem. Do not reduce the amount of One Shot you're using or you'll probably end up with a stuck case in your die.

Your vent hole must be clogged. Save the One Shot for straight walled handgun brass, that brass doesn't need any lube if run through a carbide die. One Shot will ease the resizing effort needed and increase tour speed.

Switch to Imperial Sizing Die Wax or a pad and lube system making sure you don't get any lube on the rifle case shoulder.
1/2/2015 9:41:57 PM EDT
[#17]
I have seen dents like that once when I got in a hurry and did not allow enough time for the alcohol to evaporate from my home lube.

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