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Posted: 1/19/2014 9:50:57 AM EDT
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I did a search, including two years of the archives and found nothing. I'd like to make some blanks for launching golf balls. Has anyone tried this? Is it possible without a die to crimp the neck? Feeding and extraction are not important to me. I just want as much safe distance as I can get with the golf balls.
Yes, I could just buy blanks but I'd like to try making some if it can be done safely. Yes, golf ball launchers are a load of fun. |
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Blank Crimp Dies
Unless you plan to make hundreds of blanks, it is considerably Cheaper to just buy several boxes. |
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.223/5.56mm
I've heard people say you can just pull bullets from live rounds, pour the powder back in, and cram tissue paper in there. Back when I was younger and dumber I got away with doing that with some 7.62x39mm using a dowel to press in the tissue paper.. It worked but now that I'm a little more cautious I wonder how wise that was. It would be really easy to throw a near max charge of a voluminous powder and use the seating die to press tissue paper. Of course you would have a severely compressed and erratically compressed charge.... ETA: I found some DAG 5.56mm blanks here for $60/30 round box. That's reasonable but I'd still like to make my own if it's possible to do it safely without a crimp die. |
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I use 7 grains of Unique and crimp the case neck with the serrated portion of my pliers, it's a great way to use split neck ,dented body, trimmed too short and otherwise unusable brass. FYI the DAG plastic blanks launch golf balls farther than I can see (unless a water splashdown is involved) |
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From TECHNICAL MANUAL TM 43-0001-27
ARMY AMMUNITION DATA SHEETS SMALL CALIBER AMMUNITION CARTRIDGE, 5.56MM, GRENADE, M195 Propellant: Type ...............................IMR 4475 Weight ............................25 gr CARTRIDGE, 5.56MM, BLANK, M200 Use: Rifles, 5.56mm, M16 and M16A1. The cartridge is designed for simulated firing in training exercises and for saluting purposes. Propellant: Type ...............................HPC 13 Weight .............................7 gr CARTRIDGE, 5.56MMN, BLANK, M755 Use: The M755 blank cartridge is especially designed for use with the Sting Ring Airfoil Munition System which consists of the M234 launcher and the 64mm riot control M743 projectile fired from the M1GA1 rifle. Propellant: Type ................................Hi Skor 700X Weight ............................12 gr |
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Not familiar with the listed powders, but you need a fast burning powder. Like I mentioned, I use Bullseye and Red Dot. Two of the fastest burning pistol powders. Slow burning powders won't burn too well because the blank doesn't develop enough pressure.
Upon looking in the Hornady manual, Win 231 is listed for .45acp. I would start there. IM inbound. |
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Quoted: I make them to launch a modified Israeli practice grenade. You must use a different powder, something faster burning like Red Dot or Bullseye. I use a small wad of cotton tucked into the case neck to retain the powder. Mind you, I have to single load these and I insert them into the chamber by hand. They will not cycle the action and they barely move the bolt carrier when fired. Small amounts of either mentioned powder will throw the practice grenade about 150 feet high ( I use it to shoot antenna wires over trees). An M-200 blank will launch it out of sight. IM me if you want specifics. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/vassili67/FD%202010/DSCN5675_zpsf11783de.jpg ETA- BTW, clean rifle thouroughly before shooting regular ammo. Blanks are dirty and you want to make sure there is no cotton or other obstruction in the barrel. |
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6 gr of what? Can someone please post a pic of the pliers crimp? Quoted:
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Just crimp. No wax is needed. 6 gr will put the ball out about 75 yards. 6 gr of what? Can someone please post a pic of the pliers crimp? I made up 3 using 6gr of bullseye to try tomorrow. The crimp looks pretty bad, so I put a drop of hot glue on the end to seal the case. |
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I made up 3 using 6gr of bullseye to try tomorrow. The crimp looks pretty bad, so I put a drop of hot glue on the end to seal the case. Quoted:
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Just crimp. No wax is needed. 6 gr will put the ball out about 75 yards. 6 gr of what? Can someone please post a pic of the pliers crimp? I made up 3 using 6gr of bullseye to try tomorrow. The crimp looks pretty bad, so I put a drop of hot glue on the end to seal the case. Bullseye or 231. It will approximate military blanks. Blanks will not cycle the action on semiautos without a restriction in the barrel and the golf ball isn't enough. Fingernail polish is more commonly used but elmers glue will do just fine as well. |
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