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8/26/2013 2:12:23 PM EDT
Lets just start off with I'm an idiot and dont know what I'm doing and I'm going to kill myself and hurt others.
Now that that has been said, you dont need to say it in an attempt to feel superior.

I have 80 rds loaded as follows:
.308 win brass once fired federal
CCi #400 primers- I dont know, but i assume they are correct size.
38 gr H 4895
168 gr HPBT by Sierra

I find on Hodgdon website a recipe using H 4895 at 41 gr max
So how fast will this load kill me?

Stand by for the recipe i loaded 223 with.


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8/26/2013 2:17:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Dude, you're gonna kill yourself and probably others....





Seriously, I assume that 41gr is a max load?

Probably about where I might start as well, maybe a little lower, that's what...   8% under.  10% is more desirable.


If the 41gr is a starting load...  Bump it up.
8/26/2013 2:44:27 PM EDT
[#2]
39 gr is min, I would pull them.
8/26/2013 2:57:02 PM EDT
[#3]
I have a few comments....

1st... CCI 400 is a small rifle primer ... if that is a typo.. please correct that in your post.

2nd... you are below Hodgdons starting charge for H4895 with a 168gr Matchking

2A .... but , within Sierras load data , 5th edition

3rd.... what rifle are you loading for ?

4th .... your starting charge is probably ok for an M1A,  (as per Hornadys service rifle data, which is all I have on hand right now...and,  with the right primer )

5th ...do you have a chronograph ?


So, the main questions are, where did you find the data , what rifle and do you have a chronograph ?
8/26/2013 3:04:09 PM EDT
[#4]
The load was a mistake. Misread imr4895 as H4895. Loading for M1a. No chrono available.

Pull everything start over?

Seems I have no idea what primers o put in almost a year ago.

I'm gonna pull apart and start again
8/26/2013 3:16:31 PM EDT
[#5]
So you are using H4895 , correct ?

Regardless... read this before you pull any bullets. Reloading for an M1A is a different beast than usual.

http://www.zediker.com/downloads/14_loading.pdf

Also this is very helpful...

http://www.zediker.com/downloads/oncefiredlg.jpg



And as per Sierra's 5th edition data , those loads are right about the middle of the road.... so take that with a grain of salt.

Most people end up right around 41.5 grains of H4895 with a Sierra 168gr Matchking.
8/26/2013 4:56:16 PM EDT
[#6]
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The load was a mistake. Misread imr4895 as H4895. Loading for M1a. No chrono available.

Pull everything start over?

Seems I have no idea what primers o put in almost a year ago.

I'm gonna pull apart and start again
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The load was a mistake. Misread imr4895 as H4895. Loading for M1a. No chrono available.

Pull everything start over?

Seems I have no idea what primers o put in almost a year ago.

I'm gonna pull apart and start again


I find on Hodgdon website a recipe using H 4895 at 41 gr max
So how fast will this load kill me?    


Don't know how fast this "load" will kill you, but it your keep reading data the way you are, you will surely break, bend, dismember or kill something or someone.

First it is not a 308 Rem, it is a 308 Winchester.  

Next 38gr is 3gr below "Start" charge for both IMR and H 4895.  H 4895 plays nice with reduced charges and there is reduced data to support this, IMR, duno, do you.

Start charge for both is 41gr, where did you find Hodgdon data showing 41gr is Max?

You need to pay closer attention or give up handloading or sumthin gunna break.
8/26/2013 8:49:57 PM EDT
[#7]
If you have not done so, invest some money and time and get some reloading manuals.  Lyman 49th Edition is great, Hornady, Sierra, several others.  At least 2 is desirable in addition to on line data of varous sources.  The books also teach proper procedures.

Keep records on what you reload, primer, powder and charge, case, # times reloaded, OAL, etc.

38 gr of that powder is low.  Typical target load hovers around 41 gr for the 168s as stated. I don't think 38 will kill you, be interesting to see if it cycles the action and ejects, reliably.  If it does, accuracy would be the next question.

You can try to shoot a few rounds.  If they function, you can use them for practice, then reload again more carefully.
8/27/2013 2:57:33 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for all the help and advice. I have Lyman 49th edition. I was obviously mistaken about the 41 grains being max, it is starting. I'm going to read the links provided on reloading for m14, then go from there.

this started because I was going to write down the load data, then got lost and confused.


hopefully i can report back and seem less so.
8/27/2013 4:41:19 AM EDT
[#9]
FWIW- I load in lots of 100 rounds, use 1 gallon zip lock bags

to store each batch as they progress through process, and write on the

label what stage each batch is in and any components installed.

After finishing a bag/lot, use masking tape over the label and

reuse the zip lock.

PS: use quality zip lock bags, the no name brands will tear rather easily.
8/27/2013 7:19:22 AM EDT
[#10]
now that I've read the links provided by bfoosh06, i think I may not be ready to load for this gun.

I'll get good and smart about 223 and 5.56, then as I learn more dive back into the M1a.
8/27/2013 7:20:47 AM EDT
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FWIW- I load in lots of 100 rounds, use 1 gallon zip lock bags

to store each batch as they progress through process, and write on the

label what stage each batch is in and any components installed.

After finishing a bag/lot, use masking tape over the label and

reuse the zip lock.

PS: use quality zip lock bags, the no name brands will tear rather easily.
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That's a good plan. I think I'll do that. I have some very tough bags i can use. thanks!
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