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7/6/2013 6:39:41 AM EDT
ok guys, this is my problem after resizing my brass I have a bunch that needs trimming. but my hornady # 15 trimmer pilot wont fit the brass. what have I done wrong on my set up. yes I am using the right trimmer pilot . help
7/6/2013 7:26:56 AM EDT
[#1]
I have never needed to trim 9mm cases.



Measure case length after sizing. Max length is .754.




The few cases I have measured were at the .744 measurement.




In the follow on posts, you will see very few people trim 9mm cases.




Measure some sized cases and post the measurement.
7/6/2013 7:35:37 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I have never needed to trim 9mm cases.

Measure case length after sizing. Max length is .754.

The few cases I have measured were at the .744 measurement.

In the follow on posts, you will see very few people trim 9mm cases.

Measure some sized cases and post the measurement.


This.^
7/6/2013 7:50:17 AM EDT
[#3]
I would never waste time trimming 9mm brass.  If it needs trimming its time to throw it out.  If it was the last few pieces of brass left on the planet then I might trim it but that's about the only scenario I can think of frankly.
7/6/2013 7:54:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Don't trim brass for 9mm or 45.
7/6/2013 7:59:04 AM EDT
[#5]
.45 ACP I have tested several times.  It does not grow, it literally shrinks.  9mm I have never measured or trimmed, never a problem.  If you are truly exceeding max case length on 9mm after sizing, as per above, let us know, then we will go from there.
7/6/2013 8:10:50 AM EDT
[#6]

Some pilots are .358" and some are .355".  I think yours is .358, so you might want to try the smaller one.
7/6/2013 9:45:04 AM EDT
[#7]
In my opinion trimming any straight walled handgun case is a complete and total waste of time. Especially when you consider 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP all headspace off the case mouth and are given a light taper crimp to secure the bullet. None have never grown to the trim lenght limit in my 30+ years of reloading.

PPC shooters and Bullseye have been known to trim .38 Special in an effort to create an identical crimp pressure for every loaded round. Only the top rank competitors will gain any noticeable advantage from this tedious process.

7/6/2013 9:56:10 AM EDT
[#8]
Yup, what everyone said is true. If it needs trimming, toss it.
I came to the same conclusion a few weeks ago.

7/6/2013 9:58:14 AM EDT
[#9]
now I see whats wrong I load a lot of .223 an 308 ammo. new to loading 9mm just started today LOL. but the dies was free and I was sitting on about 600 hulls so why not try it. I have to trim almost every 223 an 308 hull. so to put in in a nut shell keep my specs between 0.749 to 0.754 and my glock will safe to shoot
7/6/2013 10:09:56 AM EDT
[#10]
Yes.
Most of the time these rounds are not even really head spacing on the case mouth. Many are fired with just the extractor holding the case. Most designs lock up pretty much using the same principle though there are differences. This type of lock up must have a good bit of tolerance for ammo headspace.

I say this because you rarely see if fact I've never seen any problem with ammo and the problem turned out to be case length related in a semi auto caliber like the 9mm.
7/6/2013 10:15:35 AM EDT
[#11]
You're good to go without trimming 9MM cases at .749-.754" and even shorter than .749". The taper crimp die isn't dependent on exact length like rifle and roll crimped pistol.
7/6/2013 10:17:10 AM EDT
[#12]
I guess I was treating the 9mm brass like my 223 brass or 308 brass  bottle neck vs straight wall case not the same . man I feel like a fool now !!!!
7/6/2013 10:23:31 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I guess I was treating the 9mm brass like my 223 brass or 308 brass  bottle neck vs straight wall case not the same . man I feel like a fool now !!!!


Don't its an honest question and one you won't find the answer to in a manual.
7/6/2013 10:25:50 AM EDT
[#14]
I've read enough accounts that nobody have trimmed them that I have never measured my pistol brass.
7/6/2013 10:32:00 AM EDT
[#15]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MY FRIEND FOR THE HELP !! now its time to reload and go shoot
7/6/2013 10:52:05 AM EDT
[#16]
45+ years reloading, and I've never trimmed a piece of pistol brass.  For all practical purposes there is no need to trim pistol brass.
7/6/2013 12:54:48 PM EDT
[#17]
trimming brass is the most hated step in reloading (unless you have a Giraud) and the best thing about loading pistol besides being able to use carbide dies and not lubing

don't make loading pistol rounds take anymore steps, skip this step and have an enjoyable reloading session
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