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4/29/2013 1:52:47 PM EDT
I have found a local store that sells 7.62x51 ammo, and I'm stocking up.  
I'm interested in getting into long range shooting so I need to know the ammo's BC, can anyone help me out?

ATI (really turkish) 7.62x51 150gr FMJ M80
Here's a link that gave me muzzle velocity & energy, but I cannot find any calculation or measurements.
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1445.html

Again, I'm new to this calculation system and would like any assistance possible
Thank you
4/29/2013 12:02:21 PM EDT
[#1]
jbm ballistics has a plethera of info on ballistics, they have a library full of bc for paticular bullets and i believe they a a bc calculater where you enter in the projectile dimentions and wieght etc..... i hope this helps
4/29/2013 1:58:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Pull a bullet then find one that has similar weight and shape for which a BC is published.  Use that BC, if there's a difference, it will be too small to matter.

The calculator at the Hornady web site is easy to use, so you can work out some preliminary tables of come ups with the estimated BC and then the BC's a couple of points on each side; don't get too optimistic.

You'll also need a speed for the bullet, otherwise you're wasting your time.  That can also be estimated, but at some point the rifle has to be shot over a chronograph.  

Then, after you've done that work, you have to shoot the rifle at various distances to refine the sight settings.  The results from the program are no more than a good place to start and will get you on paper if you've done your work.

Knowing is everything, guessing is nothing.

Here's an example for varying BC:



4/29/2013 3:38:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Wanting to know the BC for m80 ball for long range shooting is like wanting to know your Toyota Corolla's top speed cause you wanna race it in NASCAR.  

It's m80 ball.  Nuf' said.
4/29/2013 5:03:34 PM EDT
[#4]
Assuming that the bullets themselves are just a spitzer shaped FMJ and not a boat tail, a quick and dirty estimation was done with the calculator from here:

http://www.handloads.com/calc/index.html

I got a BC of around 0.371
4/30/2013 5:52:03 AM EDT
[#5]
I appreciate the responses (even the corolla one)

So the M80 ball has standard dimensions, but varies based upon its weight (gr) right?
What is wrong with an M80?  What are better types for a 308 (7.62)?  Any other basic bullet information I should know or that you can refer me to?


Again, I am very new with this and am trying to learn.  Right now 308 (7.62) ammo is a pain to find (regardless of reasonable price)
I know it won't be ideal, but it'll at least be a good stepping stone to learn from until ammo comes more available or better priced (if ever)

4/30/2013 5:57:27 AM EDT
[#6]
It depends on the barrel it came out of.
4/30/2013 5:58:39 AM EDT
[#7]
16" stainless steel 1:10 twist (I have a CMMG 308)
I want to get out to about the 600-800 range
I know longer is better, but I couldn't pass up the deal on it.  
Someday I'll get another rifle
4/30/2013 6:04:21 AM EDT
[#8]
I mean until you get near and far velocities for each particular barrel, even two from the same company, BC is just theory.

But as has been said, M80 is not really anything to bother with getting a solid BC on. It has other challenges.
4/30/2013 6:34:39 AM EDT
[#9]
IMO, if you are really interested in long range shooting (600-800yds) then now is the time to get a bolt gun with a big barrel, a big fat scope, some sand bags, and just see if you can hit the gong at that distance.  As stated above, 7.62 x 51 can be a good long range round, but running M80-like comm'l stuff out of a short barreled gas gun is not going to demonstrate that attribute.

How are you doing with that CMMG 16" bbl at 100, 200, 300 yds?  What is your best group, so far?
4/30/2013 6:54:14 AM EDT
[#10]
Truth be told, just got it and haven't been able to take it out to the range.
I'm hoping to get out there this weekend and see what it has to offer.
4/30/2013 7:45:55 AM EDT
[#11]
JBM lists Winchester Q3130 147 gr. (M80 Ball) at G1 = .421

The G7 BC is around .200.

Like others have mentioned, M80 ball isn't very good long range, accuracy type ammo.

Look for some Federal Gold Medal 168 or 175 gr, as that will give you a pretty good baseline of what you and your rifle can do.

Even the American Eagle OTM 168 gr would be worth trying.

Hornady & Black Hills also have some good "match" loads, it's just a matter of finding any of it in stock.
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