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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:47:08 PM EDT
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My birthday is Tuesday, and the wife wants to know what I want so I am putting a list together for her and the boy to chose from, so far I have on the list is:
RCBS Primer Pocket Swager RCBS Universal Decapping Die Either the RCBS AR 223/5.56 Series die set or RCBS Full-Length 223/5.56 Die set and a Chrongraph I need a chrony recommendation, I don't want cheap and I don't want to break the bank, but I want something that is going to work well. Thanks you guys are awesome. |
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I have this one and it works well. No random errors and works consistently. http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Electronics-ProChrono-Digital-Chronograph/dp/B0028MTBJ4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top I second this, I get very consistent results and have very few problems. On super sunny days you have to use the sun screens, but that's what they are for. |
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Not knowing what the bank is, the t is available, and will last for many many years. +1 Buy once cry once. and maybe cry again if you shoot it 
I Have a PACT Timer/Chrono that I like. Plus it also works as a timer. http://pact.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=74 |
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I have the F-1 shootingchrony and love that damn thing! It's probably the cheapest one you can buy and folds up into a nice little box that fits in your range bag.
Midway Amazon You can get it from amazon for <$100. Can't beat that for a chrony! I've been using mine for almost 2 years now with 0 complaints! And yes, I made it 2 years without shooting it 
Edit: Don't spend $800 on a Chrony for Gods sake, how good does a chrony need to be. Shoot, record speed, use excel for all the processing. It's pointless to spend $800 on something to process the data for you IMHO... |
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A friend has ProChrono and it works fairly well. There are some lighting conditions that do not work with it but it has been pretty reliable. Everything is down range so there are no wires but that makes it less useable.
Other friends have CED Millennium 2 Chronograph and I would recommend it with the IR sunscreens for a low cost chrono. They use these at major USPSA matchs in a chrono box and they work very well. I have a PACT and a PVM-21. The PACT has good futures but it is just not reliable enough to bother with. The PVM-08 / PVM 2008 / PVM-21 / Kurzzeit or what ever they want to call it is great at getting good velocity numbers with pretty much any lighting condition. It has a few issues. It does not come with a battery, there are no buttons on the control box (remote control box so you do not have to go down range to see what is going on) and you have to interface with it with a generic IR remote control like for a tv. This remote is not labeled and you kind of have to memorize what the buttons do. The computer interface for it is buggy so I do not use it (I find most all German software to be horrid IMHO). I would also think the build quality should be better for that much jump in price from the other offerings. |
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I have the F-1 shootingchrony and love that damn thing! It's probably the cheapest one you can buy and folds up into a nice little box that fits in your range bag. Midway Amazon You can get it from amazon for <$100. Can't beat that for a chrony! I've been using mine for almost 2 years now with 0 complaints! And yes, I made it 2 years without shooting it
Edit: Don't spend $800 on a Chrony for Gods sake, how good does a chrony need to be. Shoot, record speed, use excel for all the processing. It's pointless to spend $800 on something to process the data for you IMHO... "How good does a Chrony need to be?" Well, I guess if you don't worry about case weight, trim length, crimp style, bullet weight deviation, powder drops are close enough without fussing over a couple of tenths, then I guess the chrony doesn't need to be very good at all. Before I bought a 35P, I bought a different brand for quite a bit less money than the 35P. The first time I used it was a nice sunny day with a few clouds in the sky. I never got a 10 round string without an ERROR showing up on at least one round. I fussed with it most of the afternoon. I remember calling the company, which will go unnamed, and they told me the sun was the problem to use it on a cloudy day. HMMM? The second time I took it out for a range session it was a overcast day but nice enough. I never got a full 10 round string without an ERROR on at least one round. And I fussed with it the whole afternoon and evening. When you work for a living, as I did then, I'm sure you guys will agree, wasting two days at the range fussing with a tool is just unacceptable. My 35P seems to not care about the type of day. I get to the range, set it up, shoot over it, and go home to digest all the data. NEVER once has it failed to record a shot from many different handguns and a good variety of rifles and calibers, and two 12 ga shotguns with Turkey loads. A chronograph's accuracy, reliability, and trust-worthiness is just as important, maybe more important than a good caliper, a good scale, a good case gage, etc. It is a tool you will need to rely on each and every time you use it. Other than the first try with a different brand, I have never used any chronographs other than my Oehler 35P. I'm sure there are others very capable and better today than in the past. But I have a high degree of confidence in the 35P that it will supply me with quality data in just about any light. It is important to have confidence and trust in your tools, whether it be a balance scale or a chronograph. Just my opinion of course. Sorry for the long post. |
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I have the F-1 shootingchrony and love that damn thing! It's probably the cheapest one you can buy and folds up into a nice little box that fits in your range bag. Midway Amazon You can get it from amazon for <$100. Can't beat that for a chrony! I've been using mine for almost 2 years now with 0 complaints! And yes, I made it 2 years without shooting it
Edit: Don't spend $800 on a Chrony for Gods sake, how good does a chrony need to be. Shoot, record speed, use excel for all the processing. It's pointless to spend $800 on something to process the data for you IMHO... +1. I recently bought the F1 Master that's worked really well so far. it has the remote that can sit on the shooting bench with ya. I also agree with Excel doing the math. Excel already has all the built in functions, just plug in the numbers and you're set.
ETA: I forgot to mention that I also asked this exact same question awhile back. Here is the link if you want to read what others recommended. |
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Quoted: Except that oehlers have replaceable skyscreens. The actual chronograph sits on the bench. Another reason I like my oehler :)Quoted: Quoted: Not knowing what the bank is, the t is available, and will last for many many years. +1 Buy once cry once. and maybe cry again if you shoot it I Have a PACT Timer/Chrono that I like. Plus it also works as a timer. http://pact.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=74 |
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Whatever you do, get a chronograph that can port the data into your PC, usually via a USB cable. Having to type it all in by hand is a real chore (and I'm a decent typist). The cost is usually fairly low and is worth every penny.
Mine is a CED Millenium II. The CED replaced a PACT Pro chronograph. <-- I cannot recommend the PACT unit, I had too much trouble with mine. |
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I have the F-1 shootingchrony and love that damn thing! It's probably the cheapest one you can buy and folds up into a nice little box that fits in your range bag. Midway Amazon You can get it from amazon for <$100. Can't beat that for a chrony! I've been using mine for almost 2 years now with 0 complaints! And yes, I made it 2 years without shooting it
Edit: Don't spend $800 on a Chrony for Gods sake, how good does a chrony need to be. Shoot, record speed, use excel for all the processing. It's pointless to spend $800 on something to process the data for you IMHO... +1. I recently bought the F1 Master that's worked really well so far. it has the remote that can sit on the shooting bench with ya. I also agree with Excel doing the math. Excel already has all the built in functions, just plug in the numbers and you're set.
ETA: I forgot to mention that I also asked this exact same question awhile back. Here is the link if you want to read what others recommended. +2, I bought this and talk about a breeze to use with no hiccups at all. With any chrono replace the sky screen supports with wooden dowels and rock on. |
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With any chrono replace the sky screen supports with wooden dowels and rock on. You refer to those chronos that use metal dowels, correct? Many do not, so I'm not sure the implications of your suggestion. Correct, no implications other than if yours has metal dowels, replace them with wooden dowels in case you shoot one of the dowels. It won't jack up your chrono. There have plenty of pictures posted of the chrono getting jacked up pretty good from just hitting the metal rods much less shooting the chrono directy. |
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Magneto speed. Unless you need to chrono semi auto pistols, no reason to buy anything else IMO.
They've finally gotten rid of the tedious, fickle BS that prevented me from buying a chrono for so many years. Strap the bayonet on the barrel/suppressor, plug in the LCD, get data. No cease fire, no worrying about weather, no shooting your tripod, no time consuming setup, and it all comes in a nice and tidy carry case. Easy peasy [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jmt1271/media/girlsatrange2013011_zps9b92ca19.jpg.html] 
The bipod looks silly, was there just to chrono
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Got that and me likey. Don't have to worry about lack of sun. Does all the math for you. Started my spreadsheets on the computer. Very nice. |
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Not knowing what the bank is, the Oehler 35P is available, and will last for many many years. +1 Buy once cry once. just do it and don't look back you can thank me later Unless you are mainly needing velocity on semi auto pistols, I can't see much reason to buy one of the old style chrono's. YMMV |
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