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Posted: 3/26/2013 7:18:20 AM EDT
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So, I had my first squib load this week. Not sure if it was no powder at all, or too little, whatever... but the primer fired and enough pressure was generated to cause the projectile to get stuck about halfway down the 5" barrel on my 1911.
I knew right after pulling the trigger that something wasn't right. There's a gunsmith at the range I was using, so I took it right to him and had him clear the bullet. I didn't get to see how he did it. As careful as I am reloading, I suspect this won't be the only time this happens. Is there a common DIY procedure for getting the bullet out of a barrel if this does happen again? |
Ive had 2 squibs so far in 10yrs, one when i first started got a bullet stuck in my USP45 barrel.  popped out fine w/ brass punch.
Second one was about a month or so ago with my 45LC vaquero.. not as easy as a semi auto barrel. That one happend because i shot some old reloads of mine i found, 12 of them, now i know why they were set aside from the rest all lite loads 
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There's never, ever an excuse for a squib. Not ever, your QA failed and you shouldn't shrug your shoulders and say, " shit happens."
Yes, I've had a few and why I keep a wooden Dow rod with my range gear. After each squib I was embarrassed enough and smart enough to pack it in, go home and do some serious overhauling to my process. Afterwards the bullet pulling would begin. Regards, dc. |
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There's never, ever an excuse for a squib. Not ever, your QA failed and you shouldn't shrug your shoulders and say, " shit happens." Yes, I've had a few and why I keep a wooden Dow rod with my range gear. After each squib I was embarrassed enough and smart enough to pack it in, go home and do some serious overhauling to my process. Afterwards the bullet pulling would begin. Regards, dc. I'm a bit confused by your post. Not one person in this thread "shrugged their shoulders" or took a "shit happens" attitude towards anything. You chastise me for having a squib... tell me my QA failed... and then go on to say that you've had a few yourself, which basically makes you the most irresponsible reloader out of anyone in this thread. You offer no advice whatsoever, so your post is pretty much worthless. Regards, GHF |
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After getting my Hornady LNL Ammo Plant, I've had 6 squib rounds. I'm not sure how it happened. I had a powder cop installed, it didn't alert me or I didn't see it.
I've been reloading for 20 years with a Dillon 550B and never once had a squib. So, what I did was buy an RCBS Lock-Out die, which physically locks up the press if it detects an under OR over charge. I've been taking it slow with the LNL since then and have yet to have another squib. A very scary situation to have. |
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There's never, ever an excuse for a squib. Not ever, your QA failed and you shouldn't shrug your shoulders and say, " shit happens." Yes, I've had a few and why I keep a wooden Dow rod with my range gear. After each squib I was embarrassed enough and smart enough to pack it in, go home and do some serious overhauling to my process. Afterwards the bullet pulling would begin. Regards, dc. I'm a bit confused by your post. Not one person in this thread "shrugged their shoulders" or took a "shit happens" attitude towards anything. You chastise me for having a squib... tell me my QA failed... and then go on to say that you've had a few yourself, which basically makes you the most irresponsible reloader out of anyone in this thread. You offer no advice whatsoever, so your post is pretty much worthless. Regards, GHF GHF, Accountability starts with owning your problem, addressing the problem and move on. That's the point of my post. IF you were looking for a "glad you weren't hurt" or help in finding fault in your equipment.... well good luck with that because you're looking for enablers and setting yourself up again for another squib. That would be experience talking and the most important post in your thread. I'm not trying to belittle you or puff myself up. This is a forum and you should have thick enough skin to accept constructive criticism. Regards, dc. |
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After getting my Hornady LNL Ammo Plant, I've had 6 squib rounds. I'm not sure how it happened. I had a powder cop installed, it didn't alert me or I didn't see it. I've been reloading for 20 years with a Dillon 550B and never once had a squib. So, what I did was buy an RCBS Lock-Out die, which physically locks up the press if it detects an under OR over charge. I've been taking it slow with the LNL since then and have yet to have another squib. A very scary situation to have. RCBS lockout die isn't fail proof either. Nothing replaces a visual on every powder charge dc. |
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There's never, ever an excuse for a squib. Not ever, your QA failed and you shouldn't shrug your shoulders and say, " shit happens." Yes, I've had a few and why I keep a wooden Dow rod with my range gear. After each squib I was embarrassed enough and smart enough to pack it in, go home and do some serious overhauling to my process. Afterwards the bullet pulling would begin. Regards, dc. I'm a bit confused by your post. Not one person in this thread "shrugged their shoulders" or took a "shit happens" attitude towards anything. You chastise me for having a squib... tell me my QA failed... and then go on to say that you've had a few yourself, which basically makes you the most irresponsible reloader out of anyone in this thread. You offer no advice whatsoever, so your post is pretty much worthless. Regards, GHF GHF, Accountability starts with owning your problem, addressing the problem and move on. That's the point of my post. IF you were looking for a "glad you weren't hurt" or help in finding fault in your equipment.... well good luck with that because you're looking for enablers and setting yourself up again for another squib. That would be experience talking and the most important post in your thread. I'm not trying to belittle you or puff myself up. This is a forum and you should have thick enough skin to accept constructive criticism. Regards, dc. But I did exactly what you did... I had a professional gunsmith clear the squib... went home... pulled all the bullets from that batch and reloaded everything. I'm very careful with my reloading, and I'm also human... so mistakes can happen... and did happen. I didn't try to blame anyone else. My question to you all was related to learning how to clear the squib myself, rather than having a gunsmith do it if/when it happens again. Sure, in a perfect world squibs would never happen. But we don't live in a perfect world, and they do happen, and I want to learn the best accepted method for clearing them. If the answer is "don't do it yourself, take it to a gunsmith... so be it." If this can be done safely by me, I want to know how. |
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I do custom smithing, if you look back to my first post I mentioned using a dow rod.
Some use brass squib rod, I prefer wood dow rod and 4oz hammer. Yes, we are human, being human we make mistakes and why I made mention of my experiences with squibs. I take my own advice as well share it. dc. |
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Brass squib rod is great but expensive, wooden dowels will usually work fine and are cheap. If possible, the dowel should be as close to bore diameter as possible. I used a wood dowel to put a lead slug down a barrel on on old Ruskie 91/30 to find out the exact bore diameter, it worked fine. |
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Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think  Better knock on wood. 16-17k isn't enough to qualify as a good start. I started with a cautious approach, gained confidence, got cocky, stopped watching my charges because I trusted my equipment and it happened. Next one was from being lost within the index. I was watching, thinking and frustrated. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. dc. |
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Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Better knock on wood. 16-17k isn't enough to qualify as a good start. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. dc. Don't break my arm patting myself on my back....I never did DICK. . I said nothing to deserve this snooty remark from you. I did not go on about how special I am that I have not had a squib yet, and I did say YET...get off your high horse guy, I was simply commenting on a post and not looking for special treatment here....just my experience thus far |
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Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Better knock on wood. 16-17k isn't enough to qualify as a good start. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. dc. Don't break my arm patting myself on my back....I never did DICK. . I said nothing to deserve this snooty remark from you. I did not go on about how special I am that I have not had a squib yet, and I did say YET...get off your high horse guy, I was simply commenting on a post and not looking for special treatment here....just my experience thus far That's what I was doing as well. Thanks for the compliment, best one I'll get all week. Just to keep it all in context.. and yes, you were patting yourself on the back. Quoted:
Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Quoted:
I started with a cautious approach, gained confidence, got cocky, stopped watching my charges because I trusted my equipment and it happened. Next one was from being lost within the index. I was watching, thinking and frustrated. |
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Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Better knock on wood. 16-17k isn't enough to qualify as a good start. I started with a cautious approach, gained confidence, got cocky, stopped watching my charges because I trusted my equipment and it happened. Next one was from being lost within the index. I was watching, thinking and frustrated. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. dc. You need to take it down a notch, no one comes on here to read your sarcastic and cocky remarks. 17k sounds like a good start to me, take that stick out of your ass. |
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Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Better knock on wood. 16-17k isn't enough to qualify as a good start. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. dc. Don't break my arm patting myself on my back....I never did DICK. . I said nothing to deserve this snooty remark from you. I did not go on about how special I am that I have not had a squib yet, and I did say YET...get off your high horse guy, I was simply commenting on a post and not looking for special treatment here....just my experience thus far That's what I was doing as well. Thanks for the compliment, best one I'll get all week. Just to keep it all in context.. and yes, you were patting yourself on the back. Quoted:
Only been loading for several years, bullet count around 16-17k rounds now. No squibs yet. I however don't have TV on in the background, or music, I just reload and think Quoted:
I started with a cautious approach, gained confidence, got cocky, stopped watching my charges because I trusted my equipment and it happened. Next one was from being lost within the index. I was watching, thinking and frustrated. Don't break your arms or legs climbing up on your I'm better than everyone else pedestal. |
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So after you get your method of removing a bullet from the barrel down I would recommend the RCBS lockout die as stated by someone earlier. Get it adjusted properly and it will lock up your press tight if over or under. I'd go on to say it's a "must have" for a progressive. It's a nicely engineered piece of a reloading tool. Anyways that's my .02 for what it's worth.....
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So, I had my first squib load this week. Not sure if it was no powder at all, or too little, whatever... but the primer fired and enough pressure was generated to cause the projectile to get stuck about halfway down the 5" barrel on my 1911. I knew right after pulling the trigger that something wasn't right. There's a gunsmith at the range I was using, so I took it right to him and had him clear the bullet. I didn't get to see how he did it. As careful as I am reloading, I suspect this won't be the only time this happens. Is there a common DIY procedure for getting the bullet out of a barrel if this does happen again? A wooden dowel and a small hammer will take care of it. Remove your barrel, secure it a vise with protective material or grips so you don't damage the barrel. Insert the dowel and drive it out. |
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If it helps anyone here...
You CAN buy hardwood dowels and dowels made of 'softer' wood. Big difference in how the dowel will handle beating on it depending on the wood it is made of... I would not be wanting a pine dowel rod or some soft junk like that. An Oak rod would take some abuse before giving up... |
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