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Posted: 1/6/2013 1:35:43 PM EDT
| I am looking for a .45 acp with taper crimp die set. all i can find in stock is carbide. whats the advantage of carbide and is anyone using this. cus its more expensive from what i have found. |
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I am looking for a .45 acp with taper crimp die set. all i can find in stock is carbide. whats the advantage of carbide and is anyone using this. cuz its more expensive from what i have found. No need to lube, although some guys do. Very durable. No need to worry about scratching the ID of the die. This is especially nice if you use nickle coated brass. Nickle coated brass has been known to scratch steel dies. My advice. Go with the carbide. |
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Carbide dies have a ring of carbide that helps keep the brass from sticking in the die. It is the reason that most people say that lube is not necessary to resize pistol brass. Of course, if you use a little lube anyway, it is that much easier and smoother.
From Redding's Catalogue: Titanium carbide differs considerably from other carbides, and is the ideal material for resizing cartridge cases. Titanium carbide has the highest hardness of any readily available carbide. The difference is in the microstructure. Viewed under a microscope it appears smooth and rounded, which presents a slippery non-galling surface, ideal for lubeless resizing of cartridges. Two types of die sets are available. The conventional three (3) die set includes the titanium carbide sizing die, expander die and bullet seating die with built-in crimp. The “Pro (progressive) Series Die Set” is a special three (3) die set designed for use in progressive machines. An expander die is not included in these sets as the most popular progressive machines expand the case mouth at the powder drop station. Progressive die sets are supplied with a profile crimp die (or taper crimp die if the cartridge headspaces on the case mouth) because the best possible crimp is attained after the bullet is seated. All Pro Series Die Sets are designed with a special large radius at the mouth of the seating and crimping dies for easy case entry. EDIT: Redding Cartridge Three Die Set $69.00 45 ACP/45 Auto Rim Ÿ 80189 |
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Quoted: I am looking for a .45 acp with taper crimp die set. all i can find in stock is carbide. whats the advantage of carbide and is anyone using this. cus its more expensive from what i have found. Nobody buys standard steel dies is why you can only find carbide dies. You don't have to use lube with carbide straight wall pistol dies. Like 45 ACP. No lube means you don't have to clean off lube after sizing. Was a happy day for me in the 70's when I got my first 357 carbide sizing die. $25 was a lot for one die back then.
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While you don't "have to" lubricate straight cases with carbide dies, if you're doing more than a hundred at a time, you might want to use a little...unless you want to really bulk up those shoulders! I haven't done any real measurements (no data to present, sorry), but the difference in sizing 9mm cases with and without a little lube is noticeable. For me it was the difference between sizing 300 without a break and sizing 500 without a break, in not much more time, too.
Most people (like me) start out using too much lube on rifle cases. Once you get the knack, you figure out how little it takes to size those rifle cases smoothly. For pistol cases, if you just touch the first case with a tiny bit of lube on your fingers, and do that for every 5th or 10th case, you'll have enough to significantly reduce your work load, yet nowhere near enough to leave much to clean off. |
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Does anyone even make non-carbide straight wall sizing dies anymore? Yes, I've seen some on a web site not too long ago, probably Midway. Crazy, eh? I think I still have two or three sets and they work just fine. I probably bought them at farm or estate sales. yamaha605 Dillon makes a "carbide" sizer for bottle neck cases, too. These are intended for commercial loaders to size millions of cases; regardless of that, these dies require lube, and they are extremely expensive. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Does anyone even make non-carbide straight wall sizing dies anymore? Yes, I've seen some on a web site not too long ago, probably Midway. Crazy, eh? I think I still have two or three sets and they work just fine. I probably bought them at farm or estate sales. I sent you a big ol' box full some years back, local club member came across them and gave them to me. They were useless so somehow you ended up with them  http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=251676 |
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