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3/18/2012 1:42:33 PM EDT
What are you guys using to measure out varget and similar cylindrical powders?
RCBS Chargemaster?
3/18/2012 2:09:30 PM EDT
[#1]
A Lee dipper, beam scale and a Hornady trickler.
3/18/2012 2:18:09 PM EDT
[#2]
RCBS uniflow measure with micrometer stem, 10/10 scale to check every tenth round and a Redding trickler
3/18/2012 2:26:24 PM EDT
[#3]
RCBS Uniflow and trickler.

Ill purposely throw about 3-4ths of a gr light from the Uniflow, then trickle the rest via trickler which sits atop/side of the digital scale.

Varget can be some work to meter, but worth it.

3/18/2012 2:38:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Lee prefect powder measure, a funnel, and a scale.
3/18/2012 2:39:19 PM EDT
[#5]
A friend told me there was a thread on modifying a tickler or chargemaster to do better.
3/18/2012 2:52:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
What are you guys using to measure out Varget and similar cylindrical powders?


Prometheus II
3/18/2012 2:52:27 PM EDT
[#7]
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A friend told me there was a thread on modifying a tickler or chargemaster to do better.



There's a thread right here in the reloading section on that very modification. Prolly on page 2 or 3, but it's here.
3/18/2012 3:02:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What are you guys using to measure out Varget and similar cylindrical powders?


Prometheus II


Are those things still only on a lease? Something like $3k just to lease one, ain't it?

3/18/2012 3:40:10 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm old school, I do it by hand and use a little spoon and then weight each load twice.  Did I mention old school not by choice?  
3/18/2012 4:23:10 PM EDT
[#10]



Pact digital scale and dispenser
3/18/2012 4:26:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Lee PPM thrown light. Then trickle up.
 
3/18/2012 4:42:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Lee PPM thrown light. Then trickle up.  


this is what i do also.

I did notice that if you pull the handle on the PPM the EXACT same every time that it comes out really close.
3/18/2012 5:04:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Redding measure.  Varget is a little crunchy, but the thrown charges work just fine.
3/18/2012 8:02:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I don't use Varget.



There are better measuring powders out there with the same or better accuracy, and not temp sensitive.




But use it if you want.
3/19/2012 3:54:24 AM EDT
[#15]
My Chargemaster doesn't behave that well with Varget. Out of say 50 loads, 5 will be over by a grain. I use the drinking straw trick and it flows well but it always goes over. It's not a big deal because I verify the weight before I drop it but that means I have to reweigh 10% of my loads.



I don't mind using it for .308 since I take my time with those rounds, for the sake of maxing out their potential, but for 223 I bought some TAC and IMR XBR8208. I've used the TAC and it meters like water. I haven't tried the IMR yet but reports (from here) state it meters much better than Varget and from looking at the granules (short extruded grains), it is apparent why it meters better.


 
3/19/2012 5:52:25 AM EDT
[#16]
I load 24 grains of Varget in my .223 loads.  I cut down a larger rifle case so that when I scoop out powder it is very close to 24 grains when level with the top of the case.

Then I trickle charge up to weight.
3/19/2012 6:23:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
My Chargemaster doesn't behave that well with Varget. Out of say 50 loads, 5 will be over by a grain. I use the drinking straw trick and it flows well but it always goes over. It's not a big deal because I verify the weight before I drop it but that means I have to reweigh 10% of my loads.

I don't mind using it for .308 since I take my time with those rounds, for the sake of maxing out their potential, but for 223 I bought some TAC and IMR XBR8208. I've used the TAC and it meters like water. I haven't tried the IMR yet but reports (from here) state it meters much better than Varget and from looking at the granules (short extruded grains), it is apparent why it meters better.
 


I'm hoping you mean by 0.1 grain!  (Otherwise, you're saying it's acceptable to be off by 0.9 grain).
3/19/2012 6:46:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Lee powder measure, set short by about a half grain, straight into the scale pan.  Then I use a tiny dipper to bring it up to weight.
3/19/2012 7:16:13 AM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:



Quoted:

My Chargemaster doesn't behave that well with Varget. Out of say 50 loads, 5 will be over by a grain. I use the drinking straw trick and it flows well but it always goes over. It's not a big deal because I verify the weight before I drop it but that means I have to reweigh 10% of my loads.



I don't mind using it for .308 since I take my time with those rounds, for the sake of maxing out their potential, but for 223 I bought some TAC and IMR XBR8208. I've used the TAC and it meters like water. I haven't tried the IMR yet but reports (from here) state it meters much better than Varget and from looking at the granules (short extruded grains), it is apparent why it meters better.

 
I'm hoping you mean by 0.1 grain!  (Otherwise, you're saying it's acceptable to be off by 0.9 grain).
It's been a while since I've made those rounds so I don't remember if it was 0.1 or 1.0. I was working through 5 different loads, incrementally, so the difference might have been (for example) 23.9 vs. 24. All I know is I watch the scale to make sure it's not over or under.





 
3/19/2012 8:09:21 AM EDT
[#20]
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RCBS Uniflow and trickler


Same.  You might get a little crunch, with any cylindrical powder in any throw, but that is why you undershoot and use the trickler for precision round charges.

3/19/2012 1:17:39 PM EDT
[#21]
PPM  here.  It gets within 0.10 grain on progressive setup and with SD less than 25 ft/sec, plenty good for all work.



One issue with Varget is the very light graphite coating compared to IMRs which appear solid black.  This reduces the flow.  Coating the measure with graphite seems to help.


 
3/19/2012 5:00:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Iv'e bee using my chargemaster for about 9 months now with great results using Varget, after I did the straw trick, and re-programmed it.

I can't remember the programming, but for the straw trick, I used a heavy drinking cup straw instead of a McDonalds one, and it throws 99-98 accurate loads out of a 100 now with Varget.

The straw I used was from one of those heavy plastic drinking cups with the hard plastic straw the goes through a lid with a gasket, you get at K-mart or Walmart.

I cut a 1/2" piece off the straw, and stick it half in, and half out of the dispenser tube.
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