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1/11/2012 10:17:57 AM EDT
I went to the range (it was closed) didn't go there to shoot but took the wife there to show her the place. I did pick up some brass so either way it was a good trip. I did find 6 cases from something that appeared to be similar to the .357 sig. Upon closer inspection the base appears to be the same as a 9mm luger. but it is a bottlenecked cartridge. diameter is smaller than the .357 sig but it is also taller than the .357 sig.

No manufactures mark on the bottom except a 75 and then opposite that a oval with maybe some numbers in it (can't tell atm since I can't find my magnifying glass), where the bullet goes measures to about .30 which might indicate a 30 cal firearm, but am unsure if it is pistol or rifle cartridge length I am guessing is a tad shorter than a 10 mm case fired (both cases are fired). I got out one of my reloading manuals and couldn't find it. Anyone have any ideas? I can put up a pic a bit later as I have a few errands/chores to do. Ahhhhh the good ol honey do  lists.  
1/11/2012 10:27:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like 7.62 TOK, you probably found 1975 mil surplus.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9725mm_Tokarev
1/11/2012 10:32:42 AM EDT
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Intresting!!  Although another question with this too. On the 6 cases I found 3 of them had splits in the neck, is this because the chamber is a bit big? and would it be making the gun unsafe to fire?


1/11/2012 10:36:37 AM EDT
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Quoted:





Intresting!!  Although another question with this too. On the 6 cases I found 3 of them had splits in the neck, is this because the chamber is a bit big? and would it be making the gun unsafe to fire?




Brass or steel cases?  Neck splits aren't uncommon with old, worn out TT33's and/or old surplus ammo.  More of an accuracy or reliability issue than a safety issue.

1/11/2012 12:32:05 PM EDT
[#4]
brass cases give me a  bit will post a pic or 2 a bit later after taking care of some family things.
1/11/2012 6:27:14 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:





Intresting!!  Although another question with this too. On the 6 cases I found 3 of them had splits in the neck, is this because the chamber is a bit big? and would it be making the gun unsafe to fire?




Brass or steel cases?  Neck splits aren't uncommon with old, worn out TT33's and/or old surplus ammo.  More of an accuracy or reliability issue than a safety issue.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Pistol_TT33.jpg/300px-Pistol_TT33.jpg


Neck splits are more a case of season cracking of the brass necks due to stresses in the neck from brass forming and bullet seating and traces of ammonia in the powder.  I have never actually seen a worn out chamber on a TT33 though I have seen several barrels where the rifling was worn smooth due I guess to many thousands of rounds fired along with soft barrel steel.  In any case, the split necks do not hurt a thing.

Regards,
dcat

1/12/2012 3:03:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Tokarev cases with neck splits are not uncommon with surplus ammunition.  This brass-cased ammo will also be Berdan primed.
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