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1/4/2012 7:04:59 PM EDT
Its the only way I have ever used to eliminate the crimp, is this the easy way or am I not getting it right?   It just seems to be too easy.
1/4/2012 7:08:14 PM EDT
[#1]
The only easier way is to obtain uncrimped brass in the first place or buy a 1050 which has a built in swaging station.
1/4/2012 7:30:50 PM EDT
[#2]
The swager has a lot of leverage, so not much pressure is needed.
1/4/2012 8:25:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Yep, properly lubed and adjusted my swager glides through .223 brass like it's not even there and it handles 30-06 and 308 crimps with only the slightest of resistance.  I put a dab of heavy gear oil on the cam (part the handle and swager attach to that rotates) each time I change primer sizes.  Properly lubed the thing feels like it's gliding on air.

 
1/4/2012 9:37:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
The only easier way is to obtain uncrimped brass in the first place or buy a 1050 which has a built in swaging station.


WINNER.

1/4/2012 9:50:57 PM EDT
[#5]
I have been using the RCBS press mounted swagger and it's not to bad but my new Dillon super swagger will be here Saturday, looking forward to using it.
1/4/2012 10:30:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I have been using the RCBS press mounted swagger and it's not to bad but my new Dillon super swagger will be here Saturday, looking forward to using it.


RCBS served me well. After swaging a quick thousand with Dillon I realized swaging wasn't a chore anymore.
1/5/2012 3:29:18 AM EDT
[#7]
Thanks, I was wondering if I had to adjust it or something, it just seemed too easy.   I got 1000 SBS headstamped cases and started on them yesterday.

 
1/5/2012 5:09:36 AM EDT
[#8]
I'm the oddball out , I'll take a powered Hornady over the Dillon hand swager any day , in fact I sold the Dillon awhile back.

Did run a cross another one cheap enough that's on the way , figured we could move it around the forum for those that could use it for a bit
1/5/2012 5:14:03 AM EDT
[#9]
the real test to see if you are swaging properly is to try to seat a primer.  I use mainly PPU brass and swaging for me is not as easy as other described.  I had to play with the length of the rod to get it to the sweet spot where my primers were able to be seated with just the right resistance w/o marking them up in any way.  YMMV
1/5/2012 5:15:20 AM EDT
[#10]
Just picked one up for my dad over xmas. Although I will get to use it as much as he does.

Any tips for a beginner with one of these?


Bev
1/5/2012 5:22:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Thanks, I was wondering if I had to adjust it or something, it just seemed too easy.   I got 1000 SBS headstamped cases and started on them yesterday.  


Check if the primer goes in normally   If not, you need to adjust.

A Dillon rep explained the easiest way to do this is lay the tool flat on a bench and adjust until case is tight.  The sewage with the handle falling below the bench.  Good luck.
1/5/2012 6:48:59 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I'm the oddball out , I'll take a powered Hornady over the Dillon hand swager any day , in fact I sold the Dillon awhile back.

Did run a cross another one cheap enough that's on the way , figured we could move it around the forum for those that could use it for a bit


I'm with you.  The SS is fine and all, but not as fast as a Hornady or Lyman tool chucked into a drill.
1/5/2012 8:03:47 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm the oddball out , I'll take a powered Hornady over the Dillon hand swager any day , in fact I sold the Dillon awhile back.

Did run a cross another one cheap enough that's on the way , figured we could move it around the forum for those that could use it for a bit


I'm with you.  The SS is fine and all, but not as fast as a Hornady or Lyman tool chucked into a drill.


Which tools?
1/5/2012 8:51:16 AM EDT
[#14]
PP reamer/uniformer.  Both have positive stops so you can't over-ream the pocket.
1/5/2012 11:49:46 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
PP reamer/uniformer.  Both have positive stops so you can't over-ream the pocket.


yep this is the unit started out with the RCBS figured there was something better so picked up the Hornady
and small motor and went to town. Came across the Dillon for a price that I couldn't not try the Blue koolaid out for. Of those 3 the Hornady is still on the bench and others on the list own the RCBS & Dillon now
1/5/2012 12:23:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm the oddball out , I'll take a powered Hornady over the Dillon hand swager any day , in fact I sold the Dillon awhile back.

Did run a cross another one cheap enough that's on the way , figured we could move it around the forum for those that could use it for a bit


I'm with you.  The SS is fine and all, but not as fast as a Hornady or Lyman tool chucked into a drill.


Which tools?




Like this
1/5/2012 12:29:13 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have been using the RCBS press mounted swagger and it's not to bad but my new Dillon super swagger will be here Saturday, looking forward to using it.


RCBS served me well. After swaging a quick thousand with Dillon I realized swaging wasn't a chore anymore.

Use the RCBS swager as a "check" tool, that is all it is good for after you start using the blue swager
1/5/2012 1:01:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have been using the RCBS press mounted swagger and it's not to bad but my new Dillon super swagger will be here Saturday, looking forward to using it.


RCBS served me well. After swaging a quick thousand with Dillon I realized swaging wasn't a chore anymore.

Use the RCBS swager as a "check" tool, that is all it is good for after you start using the blue swager




Crimp removed.



Crimped.

Like this.
1/5/2012 1:27:32 PM EDT
[#19]
I used the RCBS swager for 30 years, it was a pain in the buttocks to use, slow as dirt, after reading all the praises on this board I finally got the Dillon, the difference was night and day, my only disappointment was why I waited so long to get the Dillon.
1/5/2012 5:00:32 PM EDT
[#20]
I agree, the Dillon Super Swager is a GOD-SEND.  Here's how I have mine set up:



Dillon Super Swager on one end of a sawhorse from Home Depot ($18.00), and a Lee Reloading Press Md: 90045 (~$30.00 + $12.00 for the various shellholders).  With this setup, I was recently able to power through decapping and swaging 5,000 of .223 Lake City OFB, while re-watching season one of Justified (and a few other movies/shows, LOL), all from the comfort of my own couch!

Yes, when properly cleaned and oiled, the Super Swager IS that simple to use.
1/5/2012 5:30:24 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


the real test to see if you are swaging properly is to try to seat a primer.  I use mainly PPU brass and swaging for me is not as easy as other described.  I had to play with the length of the rod to get it to the sweet spot where my primers were able to be seated with just the right resistance w/o marking them up in any way.  YMMV
I'll have try seating a couple primers over the weekend to make sure then.





 
1/5/2012 8:31:12 PM EDT
[#22]
I have mine mounted in a 2x4 that's the same length as the Super Swager itself, when I want to use it I put it in my vise, its a perfect working height.
1/11/2012 6:44:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
A Dillon rep explained the easiest way to do this is lay the tool flat on a bench and adjust until case is tight.  The sewage with the handle falling below the bench.  Good luck.


The sewage with the handle falling below the bench??? What sewage?
So set the tool on the bench with a case on the guide rod? Then thread the guide rod in until it's tight? I'm assuming while the ram is in the down stroke??

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