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Posted: 12/10/2011 9:27:58 AM EDT
For those that dread case prep here are (2) very simple solutions, these are time savers...
This is me prepping some 30.06 cases for my M1 Dillon 550 Giraud Trimmer |
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Quoted: Quoted: For less than the cost of a Giraud, I'd put a Dillon Rapid Trim on the press. For less than the cost of 2 Rapid Trims ( I load 6.8 and 7.62 x 39 also) I got a giraud... You don't need two trimmers, just two trim dies. Besides, no matter what you get, nothing currently made trims your brass automatically while you're doing your case prep on a progressive press, nothing. Add to that a casefeeder and you can deprime, resize, and trim only those that need it without ever having to pick up a single piece of brass. All you do is dump fired brass in your tumbler for 1 hour. When it's clean you separate the media to put back into the tumbler and then dump the brass into a pan for lubing. Spray on the lube shake it and spray again. Dump it into the casefeed hopper. Turn on the casefeeder and trimmer and then start cranking your handle. Dump your deprimed, resized, and trimmed brass into your tumbler for 10 minutes to remove the lube. Your brass is now clean, fully prep'd, and ready to reload and you haven't touched a single case. |
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For less than the cost of a Giraud, I'd put a Dillon Rapid Trim on the press. For less than the cost of 2 Rapid Trims ( I load 6.8 and 7.62 x 39 also) I got a giraud...
You don't need two trimmers, just two trim dies. Besides, no matter what you get, nothing currently made trims your brass automatically while you're doing your case prep on a progressive press, nothing. Add to that a casefeeder and you can deprime, resize, and trim only those that need it without ever having to pick up a single piece of brass. All you do is dump fired brass in your tumbler for 1 hour. When it's clean you separate the media to put back into the tumbler and then dump the brass into a pan for lubing. Spray on the lube shake it and spray again. Dump it into the casefeed hopper. Turn on the casefeeder and trimmer and then start cranking your handle. Dump your deprimed, resized, and trimmed brass into your tumbler for 10 minutes to remove the lube. Your brass is now clean, fully prep'd, and ready to reload and you haven't touched a single case. Dillon does market a seperate trimmer motor for 7.62 x 39 and 6.8, and thats was I was referring too... I know you can buy the trim dies for those calibers (at least I am aware of the CH4D 6.8 Trim die) from a 3rd party and just use the one trimmer, but when I looked at all the options and took everything into consideration, the Giraud, at least for me, was the better choice... I am not knocking the 1200 in any way and didn't mean for my post to sound like I was knocking it or anyone who chose to purchase it... |
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The Rapid Trim has a very limited offering of calibers, and it does not handle shorter cases well hence the need to have a separate offering for the 7.62 Commie. And, you have some other issues.....but for straight forward 223 308 3006 a person could do okay. The trim dies are very expensive to say the least. So, one can piss and moan about all kinds of issues.
The simple fact remains you can not sequentially load rifle ammo, due case prep considerations. But, at this point in time. The GIRAUD rules, and you can get custom shell holders made for you chamber by Doug. People who have never used a Giraud have no clue! |
| I don't understand this post. Where is the time savings? I would think if I were showing off a time savings I would have a lube die in the press at the very least. Put a lube die in that press and a Dillon trimmer then I will be impressed add a case feeder and you might be close to God status. Just running lubed cases through a size die in a manual indexing press, well I can do that on my Rock Chucker and I would have to say faster then what you are doing. Right hand running the press handle, left hand picking up a lubed case while right sizes case in press, left hand pulls sized case slips in new case and puts sized case in bin then picking up another case about the time my right arm has sized the new case. Your trimmer is cool but for the price I have no problem with my RCBS trimmer chucked up to my drill. I would like a Dillon trimmer and will probably get one before I do another large batch of 223. Just don't see the time savings. |
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The Giraud is tops - I have one. Never saw the advantage of the progressive though with bottle neck cases. Still have to tumble after the resize. The progressive saves a ton of time over a single stage when charging the case, seating the bullet, and crimping. |
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