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Posted: 10/12/2011 12:25:29 PM EDT
| How do i properly dispose of loads with a primer that was seated wrong? |
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If you haven't loaded the bullet, there's no reason you can't just run it through the sizing and/or depriming die again and start over. You won't set off the primer, even if its upside-down. Go slow and wear glasses if you're nervous about it. If you have loaded the bullet, you can pull the bullet and start over. If you don't want to bother with either of those, I don't know of any reason that you can't just toss it in the trash with the egg shells and coffee grounds.
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| I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. |
| If you have a bullet already seated I would use a bullet puller, dump the powder and use a Lee universal decapper (I prefer using the decapper because it takes alot less pressure to remove the primer and since it may be live, that's a plus in my book). Like others have said just be careful and use safety glasses if you wish. |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. Suggest you search the archives and the web for more accurate information regarding deactivating primers. WD40 has been shown to NOT deactivate primers reliably as has many other methods. Be very careful spreading inaccurate information. |
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Pull the bullets.. Do not use WD40 or put out with Egg Shells. A steel burn barrel (fire) in a safe location is good.. Quoted:
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How do i properly dispose of loads with a primer that was seated wrong? |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. Suggest you search the archives and the web for more accurate information regarding deactivating primers. WD40 has been shown to NOT deactivate primers reliably as has many other methods. Be very careful spreading inaccurate information. Do you have any more info? I was reading straight from the Dillon instruction manual, and don't have any more info on this subject. Was the WD40 not effective, or was the application by the user not effective? What is a better penetrating oil or substance to use? |
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Dillonhelp got a little excited when this topic was raised a few weeks ago. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Do you have a link to this thread? I would like to see it. Query a search of dillonhelp posts. He posted an opinion 2 or 3 weeks ago. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: I also was under the impression the WD40 soak would kill the primer, but was told otherwise by a shooting friend of mine. To see, I tried an experiment where I dropped some unneeded primers in a capful of wd40. After a few days I took them out, and let them "dry" out for 2 weeks. I placed each primer one at the time under a heavy rag on a concrete slab. I could hit the loose primer (under the rag) with a hammer, and they popped with varying vigor. My memory is 3 out of the 5 popped very actively, and the other 2 were only slightly less pop.Quoted: Quoted: I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. Suggest you search the archives and the web for more accurate information regarding deactivating primers. WD40 has been shown to NOT deactivate primers reliably as has many other methods. Be very careful spreading inaccurate information. Do you have any more info? I was reading straight from the Dillon instruction manual, and don't have any more info on this subject. Was the WD40 not effective, or was the application by the user not effective? What is a better penetrating oil or substance to use? Was my experiment perfect? Not at all Was it a super safe experiment? I probably could have improved on it some. What did it tell me? The only way I personally will say a primer is rendered harmless is to fire it/hammer it under a protective arrangement in a way it is either discharged, or physically destroyed such that the anvil and cup are seperated. Burning as mentioned above is something I had not thought of previously. I appreciate the idea. |
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Dillonhelp got a little excited when this topic was raised a few weeks ago. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Do you have a link to this thread? I would like to see it. Query a search of dillonhelp posts. He posted an opinion 2 or 3 weeks ago. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Just searched dillonhelp's posts. 5 came up, none mentioned primer tubes. |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. Suggest you search the archives and the web for more accurate information regarding deactivating primers. WD40 has been shown to NOT deactivate primers reliably as has many other methods. Be very careful spreading inaccurate information. Do you have any more info? I was reading straight from the Dillon instruction manual, and don't have any more info on this subject. Was the WD40 not effective, or was the application by the user not effective? What is a better penetrating oil or substance to use? I recommend that you do a web search for "deactivate live primers" or something similar. You will find an evening of reading. I have read many articles and threads on ways to deactivate primers. By far the conclusion most come to is that there is no reliable and safe way to deactivate primers other than to fire the cartridge in a weapon. Obviously this is not possible for inverted primers. Many, including myself, have carefully used our presses to push out a live primer. I am not recommending this only that it has been done without setting off the primer. |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "seated wrong." I have popped out a live primer and not had an issue, but I don't do it a lot. If the bullet is not seated and you just have a case, you can spray wd-40 in the case and it will soak into the primer pocket and make the primer useless. That is how they say to make a primer tube inert if you get live primers jammed. If the bullet is seated, you should be able to pull it first without issues. Suggest you search the archives and the web for more accurate information regarding deactivating primers. WD40 has been shown to NOT deactivate primers reliably as has many other methods. Be very careful spreading inaccurate information. Do you have any more info? I was reading straight from the Dillon instruction manual, and don't have any more info on this subject. Was the WD40 not effective, or was the application by the user not effective? What is a better penetrating oil or substance to use? I recommend that you do a web search for "deactivate live primers" or something similar. You will find an evening of reading. I have read many articles and threads on ways to deactivate primers. By far the conclusion most come to is that there is no reliable and safe way to deactivate primers other than to fire the cartridge in a weapon. Obviously this is not possible for inverted primers. Many, including myself, have carefully used our presses to push out a live primer. I am not recommending this only that it has been done without setting off the primer. Say I do use the press to push the primer out what is the worst that could happen when setting off a small rifle primer? What I mean by seated wrong was ethier it didnt go all the way in because it wasnt properly swaged or it was smashed in. |
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Say I do use the press to push the primer out what is the worst that could happen when setting off a small rifle primer?
What I mean by seated wrong was ethier it didnt go all the way in because it wasnt properly swaged or it was smashed in. Guess worst would be you were killed  but since thats not going to happen , put your PPE on and slowly punch them out in the press
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| Current testing being done here on how to kill primers. > http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/2241051161 |
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Current testing being done here on how to kill primers. > http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/2241051161 That is cool. |
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Say I do use the press to push the primer out what is the worst that could happen when setting off a small rifle primer?
What I mean by seated wrong was ethier it didnt go all the way in because it wasnt properly swaged or it was smashed in. Guess worst would be you were killed but since thats not going to happen , put your PPE on and slowly punch them out in the pressThat's really not a way Id like to go out. I've been to Iraq 3 times it would be a shame if I was killed while making my own rounds 
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Quoted: Quoted: Say I do use the press to push the primer out what is the worst that could happen when setting off a small rifle primer? What I mean by seated wrong was ethier it didnt go all the way in because it wasnt properly swaged or it was smashed in. Guess worst would be you were killed but since thats not going to happen , put your PPE on and slowly punch them out in the pressThat's really not a way Id like to go out. I've been to Iraq 3 times it would be a shame if I was killed while making my own rounds If there's was a thumbs-up button on this site, both these comments would get one from me. |
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Say I do use the press to push the primer out what is the worst that could happen when setting off a small rifle primer?
What I mean by seated wrong was ethier it didnt go all the way in because it wasnt properly swaged or it was smashed in. Guess worst would be you were killed but since thats not going to happen , put your PPE on and slowly punch them out in the pressEar plugs and safety glasses. I had a .50 BMG primer go off on me while seating. snagged on a crimp remnant. ears rang for 3 days, hurt like a mofo, but that was all. No blood. |
| In my experience, it is both hard to "deactivate" a live primer and hard to make one detonate by using a depriming tool. Of course I wear "eyes and ears" when I do this, just in case, but I've deprimed live primers both with a press-mounted die (Lee's is excellent for this) and with a hand-held Lee Loader depriming punch and anvil (OK, so I held the punch with a pair of 10" long ChannelLoc pliers, but you get the point) and I have never gotten one to go off that way. I strongly recommend using a depriming die for this operation, because it's MUCH safer if you do somehow get the primer to go BANG. |
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