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5/19/2011 2:47:15 PM EDT
current purposed load for my 223
27g of H335 behind a 34g HP (midway dogtown) no crimp

I am having issues on col the load data says 2.20

But with the cases coming in at 1.753 and the round lenght is .516 that gives a total length of 2.269

that only leaves .069 to go into the neck.  What would be a good col to start with. or is that enough to hold the bullet in?
5/19/2011 3:06:46 PM EDT
[#1]
2.235

cuhrimp and/or size without the expander ball?

5/19/2011 5:30:08 PM EDT
[#2]
223 on a squirrel?
5/19/2011 6:30:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
223 on a squirrel?


Neck shoot them..

I did that with some  at my in-laws from tree condo (in different state on private property) with my suppressed 7.5" and cheap scope.

Just leaves a nice hole.. hit the body,, you ruin what little bit you getting.
5/19/2011 6:33:57 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


223 on a squirrel?


So!  It's the perfect round if you don't plan on eating 'em, or you hit 'em in the head.  Either way.

 



Are you using data from Hodgdon?  If so, I believe it's for the Barnes 36gr Fran Bullet Grenade.  (sounds fun)




I wonder how long that bullet is...




I'm sure I don't know the answer, but .06 ain't much.  






5/20/2011 1:15:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Im looking for a mini explosion when I hit them.  I dont care about the meat this is all out war.  They already attacked and won the first battle with 2 trucks down (1 for wires and 1 for hoses) 1 car trailer without lights and they are trying to break into the house.  So there will be no mercy given at this point.

^Yes that is the closest data I can find
5/20/2011 3:22:53 AM EDT
[#6]
I never got the 34gr DT to shoot well enough to hit the tree the squirrel is in. This bullet and the .223 case were not made for each other. Its a great little bullet for the 22-250, Hornet, etc. Getting enough bullet into the case neck was the ultimate problem. I test fired them in un-trimmed LC cases at 1.77".
5/20/2011 5:01:49 AM EDT
[#7]
I shoot squirrels with my .223, but I use Trail Boss and 55gr FMJ bullets.  I think the load is 4.0grs.
When I chrono'ed them, they were around 1050fps...they are quieter...but they don't move the bolt at all.

It's like a pissed-off pellet gun.
5/20/2011 5:04:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

It's like a pissed-off pellet gun.


Love it!!
5/20/2011 5:29:24 AM EDT
[#9]
It;s against the law to shoot squirrels in LA with a .223, not sure about your state.

I would use the 40gr V-Max if it was me, very explosive and damn accurate.
5/20/2011 10:41:53 AM EDT
[#10]
I suppose it matters whether you come from a state where people regard them as tree rats / varmints or whether you come from a state where people actually eat them. If eating or skinning them for their itty bitty pelts in in order then a sub sonic 55 gr FMJ is just the ticket.  If you want to blow them up like a prairie dog then a fast,light jacketed bullet that fragments on impact will give the desired red cloud of blood and bits effect very nicely.
5/20/2011 11:44:12 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I never got the 34gr DT to shoot well enough to hit the tree the squirrel is in. This bullet and the .223 case were not made for each other. Its a great little bullet for the 22-250, Hornet, etc. Getting enough bullet into the case neck was the ultimate problem. I test fired them in un-trimmed LC cases at 1.77".


This is kinda what I suspected.   GUess Ill stick with the 40-50gr vmax.

Def not worried about meat or pelts just looking to stop the damage they are doing to the property/ vehicles.

Thanks for the info

5/20/2011 11:52:08 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I shoot squirrels with my .223, but I use Trail Boss and 55gr FMJ bullets.  I think the load is 4.0grs.
When I chrono'ed them, they were around 1050fps...they are quieter...but they don't move the bolt at all.

It's like a pissed-off pellet gun.


Something like the above...using a patch of dryer lint to keep the powder covering the primer inside.
Could also load FMJs backwards... or use cast lead projos...
5/20/2011 12:49:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I shoot squirrels with my .223, but I use Trail Boss and 55gr FMJ bullets.  I think the load is 4.0grs.
When I chrono'ed them, they were around 1050fps...they are quieter...but they don't move the bolt at all.

It's like a pissed-off pellet gun.


Something like the above...using a patch of dryer lint to keep the powder covering the primer inside.
Could also load FMJs backwards... or use cast lead projos...
Dryer lint is a cool idea - very green and planet friendly.

I've always used bqult batting for light loads and to fill a case when making blanks. A bag of it from a craft store is cheap and lasts forever - but dryer lint is free.
5/20/2011 1:02:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Im looking for a mini explosion when I hit them.  I dont care about the meat this is all out war.  They already attacked and won the first battle with 2 trucks down (1 for wires and 1 for hoses) 1 car trailer without lights and they are trying to break into the house.  So there will be no mercy given at this point.

^Yes that is the closest data I can find


If you're looking for an explosion, get some Barnes Varmint Grenades.  I'm thinking that using this bullet would also offer less chance of collateral damage compared to a fmj.

Varmint Grenade In Action
5/22/2011 9:36:09 AM EDT
[#15]
Is that the right data?  A 40 gr Speer is 2.060" OAL.  A 37 gr Lyman is 1.992".
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