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1/13/2011 4:22:39 AM EDT
OK, sorry in advance for the REALLY stupid question here...

I haven't done much reloading, but probably stomped out a couple of hundred rounds last year.  Anyhow, last night I was going to get some 30-06 brass prepped up that was shot out of my 700.  I thread in the neck sizing die and thread down til it contacts the shell holder like it says in the destructions.  If I read correctly, the instructions then say to go one more turn with the die.  Then if I read correctly, they say to go 1/4 more turn, but a few lines later it says that I should now be a total of 2 turns down?  What am I missing here?  1 turn + 1/4 turn = 2??  I must be reading something wrong?

Well anyhow, I try it both ways (1 1/4 turns and 2 turns past touching the shell holder).  Both ways punch the primer, but I don't feel hardly any resistance other than that.  I realize that there is considerably less resistance than if I was full length sizing, but it doesn't feel like it's doing much at all?  Should the neck of the brass be "shined" up (cause it's not)?  Is there a sign that I can look for that I'm doing it right or wrong?  I set there at the bench and took the die apart and just scratched my head.  I went through this entire process without a beer, so that could be the problem...  Anyhow, if anybody's got any suggestions for my dumbass question I would appreciate the help.  If you'd rather email, I'm at [email protected].  Thanks.
1/13/2011 5:59:40 AM EDT
[#1]
If you are talking a standard Lee full length sizing die.  The ones I have say to screw the die in to touch the shellholder then an additional 1/4 to 1/3 turn.
1/13/2011 6:03:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
............  Is there a sign that I can look for that I'm doing it right or wrong?  .................


like lightning falling from Heaven?



j/k.  Measure before and after with calipers.

If you don't have calipers use a bullet before and after.  Should slide in and out by hand prior to sizing and not be able to slide post sizing.



Then get a set of calipers

1/13/2011 6:35:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
If you are talking a standard Lee full length sizing die.  The ones I have say to screw the die in to touch the shellholder then an additional 1/4 to 1/3 turn.


This was the neck sizing dies.  I read up on the full length while I was head scratchin' and they did call out 1/4 to 1/3 as well.
1/13/2011 6:44:36 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
............  Is there a sign that I can look for that I'm doing it right or wrong?  .................


like lightning falling from Heaven?



j/k.  Measure before and after with calipers.

If you don't have calipers use a bullet before and after.  Should slide in and out by hand prior to sizing and not be able to slide post sizing.



Then get a set of calipers



I checked for bullet fit, and it didn't seem real tight after I ran the brass through.  I do have a set of calipers though and I'll give that a try tonight.
1/13/2011 6:56:47 AM EDT
[#5]
One turn ought to do it. The instructions state that 1 and 1/4 turns is used if additional neck tension is desired. If you're using a press other than Lee, then they recommend you give the die two full turns. My guess is that you're not giving the press handle enough force. When neck sizing with the collet, you have to press pretty hard on it (25 lbs.). It's that last little bit of travel that squeezes the neck.
1/13/2011 7:04:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
If you are talking a standard Lee full length sizing die.  The ones I have say to screw the die in to touch the shellholder then an additional 1/4 to 1/3 turn.

Yeah, he's referring to the Lee Collet Die.

Another thing which seems to help also, is to tear the die apart, and put a little grease on the collet parts inside before you start neck sizing.

1/13/2011 9:38:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
One turn ought to do it. The instructions state that 1 and 1/4 turns is used if additional neck tension is desired. If you're using a press other than Lee, then they recommend you give the die two full turns. My guess is that you're not giving the press handle enough force. When neck sizing with the collet, you have to press pretty hard on it (25 lbs.). It's that last little bit of travel that squeezes the neck.


10-4, I'll re-set it for 1 turn past bottomed out.  I don't think the pressure was the problem, I read the 25# comment and put every ounce of fatboy I have into it.
1/13/2011 9:39:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If you are talking a standard Lee full length sizing die.  The ones I have say to screw the die in to touch the shellholder then an additional 1/4 to 1/3 turn.

Yeah, he's referring to the Lee Collet Die.

Another thing which seems to help also, is to tear the die apart, and put a little grease on the collet parts inside before you start neck sizing.



It seemed like it had a pretty good film of oil on it when I tore it apart, but I'll recheck and grease as neccessary.

I appreciate all the help guys.
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