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7/14/2010 6:36:55 AM EDT
I know it's pretty unlikely but has anyone heard of the m855A1 bullet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56_x_45_mm_NATO#M855A1) being available for purchase for reloading?
7/14/2010 6:56:42 AM EDT
[#1]
The Army barely has it.

ETA:  Personally, I'd want to wait until there's some real-world reports of how the bullet performs before I'd be interested in it as a component.
7/14/2010 8:10:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
The Army barely has it.

ETA:  Personally, I'd want to wait until there's some real-world reports of how the bullet performs before I'd be interested in it as a component.


For all with know it tumbles in the opposite direction.
7/14/2010 8:23:29 AM EDT
[#3]
I figured it would be scarce but hopefully they will be available eventually.
7/14/2010 12:53:05 PM EDT
[#4]
looks like a tungstine carbide pin copper jacketed, that would fall in the armor piercing catagory like the m995 m993 which means it wont be avalible for purchase.
7/14/2010 7:24:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
looks like a tungstine carbide pin copper jacketed, that would fall in the armor piercing catagory like the m995 m993 which means it wont be avalible for purchase.


Don't guess when the info is readily available. It's a steel tip and isn't any more AP than M855. Why would they reinvent M995? It works just fine, and it's not what they were looking to replace.
7/14/2010 9:54:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I'd bet a sea of surplus M855 projectiles in the future.
7/14/2010 11:23:26 PM EDT
[#7]
I hope to hell so!
7/15/2010 6:10:17 AM EDT
[#8]
The only reason the M855 round is classified as non-AP is because there is a lead slug that follows the steel tip.  As long as the core is not made of steel and steel alone - then it would not follow the AP guidelines.  If the core is solely steel, tungsten, depleted uranium, brass, or the other items they list ... then it's AP.  Surprised they haven't given Barnes heck about solid brass projectiles ... technically that falls under AP.

Sarg

7/15/2010 6:18:12 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


The only reason the M855 round is classified as non-AP is because there is a lead slug that follows the steel tip.  As long as the core is not made of steel and steel alone - then it would not follow the AP guidelines.  If the core is solely steel, tungsten, depleted uranium, brass, or the other items they list ... then it's AP.  Surprised they haven't given Barnes heck about solid brass projectiles ... technically that falls under AP.



Sarg



I was under the impression that AP rifle rounds are not technically outlawed, just AP HANDGUN rounds.



Unless there's a specific exception for things like .50BMG API and the like, which you can buy all day long...



(I know old black-tip 30-06 and M855 are both specifically non-AP classified)



 
7/15/2010 6:35:36 AM EDT
[#10]
The ATF definition of armor piercing is for "handgun" ammo, but it is interpreted to apply to any ammo that CAN be fired in a handgun, not just that designed for handguns. So a lot of rifle ammo falls under the definition too.
7/16/2010 6:33:40 AM EDT
[#11]
(B) The term "armor piercing ammunition" means - (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a     handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence      of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of   tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or  depleted uranium; or  (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber   designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a      weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the      projectile.      (C) The term "armor piercing ammunition" does not include shotgun    shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations    for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target    shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is    primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other    projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is    intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge    used in an oil and gas well perforating device.

I hope this helps.
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