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Posted: 6/22/2010 6:47:25 PM EDT
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I have a Stack On gun cab that I used in for a while before I bought my safe. Is it ok to store powder and primers in it? It is inside in a temp controled room. It is only a few pounds of powder and 5k or so of primers as I load up ammo as quick as I buy it. It would be used to keep my kids out of it.
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It's okay if it's well vented. But a wooden magazine such as dryflash3 uses is a better method. Separating the gunpowder and primers is a good idea, too.
Your kids need to be gunproofed, too. Get them involved in your reloading so the process is less of a mystery to investigate on the sly. |
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It's okay if it's well vented. But a wooden magazine such as dryflash3 uses is a better method. Separating the gunpowder and primers is a good idea, too. Your kids need to be gunproofed, too. Get them involved in your reloading so the process is less of a mystery to investigate on the sly. It is well vented. I'd like to do a powder magazine but the thing there is I really don't have much storage for a (another) box. My house is 101 years old. Not many closets or storage areas. But the cabnet has already clamed a corner in an extra room. And my boys love anything gun. Before bed my 18 month old came up to me and said "press"? The way he says it sound like piss, but it means he wants to sit on my lap and run the press a few times. He's still not strong enough to size 7mm rem mag though so he just runs it empty. |
| I did the same thing. Once I upgraged to a better safe, I used my old stack-on safe as storage for reloading supplies. I cut up some 1X10's and made shelves. Used a 1x10 on each side as a spacer and then one accross and repeated for each shelf. Keeps them organized and out of the hands of poeple. Wouldn't want them asking what's this? as they open a box of primers as they spill on the ground. |
Not criticizing, only learning-ly curious, but how is the wooden box "ventilated"?
I've never bought that kind of bulk. I only have about 8 thousand at the moment. I don't think my wife wood (pun intended) tolerate crates of explosives in the garage if she knew about it. Do you hide it from yours, is she an understanding reloader, or like mine and doesn't have a clue? |
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Not criticizing, only learning-ly curious, but how is the wooden box "ventilated"?
I've never bought that kind of bulk. I only have about 8 thousand at the moment. I don't think my wife wood (pun intended) tolerate crates of explosives in the garage if she knew about it. Do you hide it from yours, is she an understanding reloader, or like mine and doesn't have a clue? The wooden box doesn't need venting as such. As dryflash says, it has a "weak side," apparently the lid. This means that no pressure can build up inside the wooden box, because the lid will open and vent everything-while containing fragments with its 1 inch thick walls and lid. |
| true story............i owned 3 gun stores in west texas 1980-1986. had to have a permit from the city to store any gunpowder up to 20 lbs. (the max allowed). permit was issued from the fire dept. they sent out LT. dumb ass to let me know what the specs of the storage container had to be. plywood, 1 1/2" sides and bottom and 3" thick top. minimum. the box was to be scooted up against a brick wall on two sides and against a safe on the other. i talked myself blue in the face telling this certified moron that the lid needed to be very light so that in case of a fire the powder would just burn instead of explode because it wouldn't be contained that way. told him powder doesn't explode it burns, unless you give the pressure no place to go. told me he was the expert and i had to comply. so i did. but i made two lids. one 1/2" thick we put on at night when the place was closed and then replaced it w/the "right" one during the day. i even called his cpt. and told him what an idiot he was and the cpt. agreed but said that this "expert" had helped write the city codes on powder storage and there was nothing he could do. found out later that the other gun stores in the area had been paying him off and they stored as much powder as they wanted any way they wanted and got a permit issued each year no problem. the good old days!! |
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true story............i owned 3 gun stores in west texas 1980-1986. had to have a permit from the city to store any gunpowder up to 20 lbs. (the max allowed). permit was issued from the fire dept. they sent out LT. dumb ass to let me know what the specs of the storage container had to be. plywood, 1 1/2" sides and bottom and 3" thick top. minimum. the box was to be scooted up against a brick wall on two sides and against a safe on the other. i talked myself blue in the face telling this certified moron that the lid needed to be very light so that in case of a fire the powder would just burn instead of explode because it wouldn't be contained that way. told him powder doesn't explode it burns, unless you give the pressure no place to go. told me he was the expert and i had to comply. so i did. but i made two lids. one 1/2" thick we put on at night when the place was closed and then replaced it w/the "right" one during the day. i even called his cpt. and told him what an idiot he was and the cpt. agreed but said that this "expert" had helped write the city codes on powder storage and there was nothing he could do. found out later that the other gun stores in the area had been paying him off and they stored as much powder as they wanted any way they wanted and got a permit issued each year no problem. the good old days!! The good old days were when real experts made the decisions in my profession (building construction). Building inspectors are "usually" ex-builders who couldn't make it in business, so they gravitate to the government job to lord over those more able. But at least they were required to know the code. Recently the "well-trained-blindered" fire marshals thought they were in charge and lorded over even the head building inspector. Last month our "newly elected" mayor put a stop to it. He "reassigned" the fire marshal, and reinstated the head building inspector as boss. Getting a new permit went from waiting 2 or 3 weeks, to 3 days...immediately...and anything the fire department says can be and often is overruled. Life is better thanks to a good republican mayor. I won't even elaborate on what those fire people wanted done to houses & buildings that had "explosives" in them. Put your best imagination to work. It was all asinine and over-night it was gone!
(And yes, we reloaders all went from "criminals" to "law abiders" in one day.) |
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true story............i owned 3 gun stores in west texas 1980-1986. had to have a permit from the city to store any gunpowder up to 20 lbs. (the max allowed). permit was issued from the fire dept. they sent out LT. dumb ass to let me know what the specs of the storage container had to be. plywood, 1 1/2" sides and bottom and 3" thick top. minimum. the box was to be scooted up against a brick wall on two sides and against a safe on the other. i talked myself blue in the face telling this certified moron that the lid needed to be very light so that in case of a fire the powder would just burn instead of explode because it wouldn't be contained that way. told him powder doesn't explode it burns, unless you give the pressure no place to go. told me he was the expert and i had to comply. so i did. but i made two lids. one 1/2" thick we put on at night when the place was closed and then replaced it w/the "right" one during the day. i even called his cpt. and told him what an idiot he was and the cpt. agreed but said that this "expert" had helped write the city codes on powder storage and there was nothing he could do. found out later that the other gun stores in the area had been paying him off and they stored as much powder as they wanted any way they wanted and got a permit issued each year no problem. the good old days!! Curious, what was the city's definition of "gunpowder"? Were they referring to black powder or smokeless powder? Big difference in storage requirements. |
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true story............i owned 3 gun stores in west texas 1980-1986. had to have a permit from the city to store any gunpowder up to 20 lbs. (the max allowed). permit was issued from the fire dept. they sent out LT. dumb ass to let me know what the specs of the storage container had to be. plywood, 1 1/2" sides and bottom and 3" thick top. minimum. the box was to be scooted up against a brick wall on two sides and against a safe on the other. i talked myself blue in the face telling this certified moron that the lid needed to be very light so that in case of a fire the powder would just burn instead of explode because it wouldn't be contained that way. told him powder doesn't explode it burns, unless you give the pressure no place to go. told me he was the expert and i had to comply. so i did. but i made two lids. one 1/2" thick we put on at night when the place was closed and then replaced it w/the "right" one during the day. i even called his cpt. and told him what an idiot he was and the cpt. agreed but said that this "expert" had helped write the city codes on powder storage and there was nothing he could do. found out later that the other gun stores in the area had been paying him off and they stored as much powder as they wanted any way they wanted and got a permit issued each year no problem. the good old days!! The good old days were when real experts made the decisions in my profession (building construction). Building inspectors are "usually" ex-builders who couldn't make it in business, so they gravitate to the government job to lord over those more able. But at least they were required to know the code. Recently the "well-trained-blindered" fire marshals thought they were in charge and lorded over even the head building inspector. Last month our "newly elected" mayor put a stop to it. He "reassigned" the fire marshal, and reinstated the head building inspector as boss. Getting a new permit went from waiting 2 or 3 weeks, to 3 days...immediately...and anything the fire department says can be and often is overruled. Life is better thanks to a good republican mayor. I won't even elaborate on what those fire people wanted done to houses & buildings that had "explosives" in them. Put your best imagination to work. It was all asinine and over-night it was gone!
(And yes, we reloaders all went from "criminals" to "law abiders" in one day.) AT LAST!! a story w/a happy ending. good for you! |
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Do you hide it from yours, is she an understanding reloader, or like mine and doesn't have a clue?