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Posted: 6/19/2010 6:12:10 AM EDT
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I can't find any factory data on these 147 grain 9mm, plated or jacketed, flat points. I traded and they are hard to find, don't know who made them, what min./max loads for tite group? Is 231 o.k to use with these types, what range here? What OAL?
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147 GR. FMJ Winchester WSF .355" 1.169" 3.9 895 28,400 PSI 4.3 950 32,300 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Longshot .355" 1.100" 3.8 851 25,700 PSI 4.7 1004 33,800 PSI 147 GR. HDY XTP IMR 800-X .355" 1.100" 3.5 808 25,600 PSI 4.0 883 28,900 PSI 147 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .355" 1.100" 3.0 668 21,800 PSI 3.6 834 29,900 PSI 147 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .355" 1.100" 4.3 773 20,200 CUP 5.0 885 27,900 CUP 147 GR. HDY XTP Winchester AutoComp .355" 1.100" 3.6 827 27,900 PSI 4.0 916 32,800 PSI 147 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .355" 1.100" 3.0 803 24,100 CUP 3.3 869 31,000 CUP 147 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .355" 1.100" 2.8 707 24,000 PSI 3.3 844 32,900 PSI 147 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .355" 1.100" 3.2 855 22,500 CUP 3.6 929 27,500 CUP 147 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .355" 1.100" 2.6 764 27,300 PSI 2.9 838 32,000 PSI 147 GR. JHP Winchester WSF .355" 1.169" 4.0 900 30,100 PSI 4.3 935 32,300 PSI 147 GR. LEAD CFP Winchester WSF .355" 1.169" 3.7 905 28,500 PSI 4.1 965 32,800 PSI WW231/HP38 isn't listed with this bullet weight. Most likely because it's burn rate is too fast for this bullet. |
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Can you post a pic of your bullet?
My advice is to use a different powder, and begin loading with the "start" load and work up watching for pressure signs. This is the default answer for when components are different than in the loading data. It's why there is a "start' load. By different I mean load data for brand "A" 147 gr FMJ, you can use brand "X" bullet of the same weight and construction. If you need help posting a pic, just say so, I have the Tutorial handy. 
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I can't find any factory data on these 147 grain 9mm, plated or jacketed, flat points. I traded and they are hard to find, don't know who made them, what min./max loads for tite group? Is 231 o.k to use with these types, what range here? What OAL? Thanks 3.6gr to 3.8gr should suffice... I and a few friends are stuck on Titegroup for our suppressor loads... If Hodgdon puts alittle extra in and you don't spill, 2000 charges / pound of powder is good for us. |
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Lyman 49 has 13 powder entries for 147gr TMJ FP 9mm bullets and 231 is in the list. What page please? 147 TMJ is on 341, don't see FP... That looks like a FP to me but they should have said so in the documentation. 
It looks like the Rainier 147gr plated FP 
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Page 341 in Lyman #49, bottom right. Yep 13 powders listed, OAL 1.115".
You will rarely see your exact bullet listed, unless you are looking in a bullet manufactures loading manual and using his bullets. This is why the Lyman, Lee and on line data from powder manufactures is such a great resource. Like I said in my previous post, use the "Start" (lowest charge) data and work up watching for pressure signs. Load your rounds using given OAL for the data you are following. Don't load any shorter than the data says. Very important in pistol rounds. |
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Page 341 in Lyman #49, bottom right. Yep 13 powders listed, OAL 1.115". You will rarely see your exact bullet listed, unless you are looking in a bullet manufactures loading manual and using his bullets. This is why the Lyman, Lee and on line data from powder manufactures is such a great resource. Like I said in my previous post, use the "Start" (lowest charge) data and work up watching for pressure signs. Load your rounds using given OAL for the data you are following. Don't load any shorter than the data says. Very important in pistol rounds. Why is OAL so important in pistol rounds? If the given OAL is say .1075 and your end product is .1072 or .1075.5 what could happen? |
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Page 341 in Lyman #49, bottom right. Yep 13 powders listed, OAL 1.115". You will rarely see your exact bullet listed, unless you are looking in a bullet manufactures loading manual and using his bullets. This is why the Lyman, Lee and on line data from powder manufactures is such a great resource. Like I said in my previous post, use the "Start" (lowest charge) data and work up watching for pressure signs. Load your rounds using given OAL for the data you are following. Don't load any shorter than the data says. Very important in pistol rounds. Why is OAL so important in pistol rounds? If the given OAL is say .1075 and your end product is .1072 or .1075.5 what could happen? Pressure can get away from you fast in 9mm but: most of the stuff I buy from Berrys won't seat any better than within a hundredths of an inch over a lot of 100, especially their seconds.. That means I can set their 115gr 9mm bullet to 1.16 and the COAL may vary between 1.155 and 1.165. I'd be very happy with that with cheap bullets. That's why we don't load to the rail, although I have to admit that I used to hotrod 9mm all the time. From my G17, it blew the mag out the bottom and got soot on my fingers. I slapped the mag back in and kept shooting. 
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