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Posted: 2/26/2010 5:02:51 AM EDT
| Looking to buy one of these,1050 any one have any pro's and con's |
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The downside of the 1050 is initial cost (almost twice as much as a XL650 with casefeeder), the extremely high cost of caliber conversions, the long time it takes to switch from one to another, and the fact that as a commercial machine, it only has a 1 year warranty. The 1050 was designed to be a production machine that is set up in a single caliber and run that way for commercial applications. Don't get me wrong, it's a great machine and does what it was designed for very well but it costs a ton. |
| The swager works well, and it is an ammo producing machine. Much smoother than the 650. The statements about cost of new toolheads and time to change calibers is correct. We've produced a few million rounds with ours in the past 15 or so years. Don't get me wrong, the 650 is a great machine, but if I am going to reload 30,000 rounds in a week's time, I'll sit down in front of a 1050 every time, even if there is a 650 next to it. |
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With the 1050 loading everything is easier. Even if you are not running crimped brass swaging all cases uniforms the pockets making loading faster and wasting less primers. Caliber changes are 20 minutes, if it takes you longer you don't do it very often or aren't mechanically inclined. The one year warranty is a issue, yeah right. I own multiple 1050's and they don't break. They are beyond built. Other than price there is no problems with the 1050.
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What happens if you're loading 223 brass thats not crimped on a 1050 ? You load it? The swage station wouldn't hurt non-crimped brass. TR I take my swagger rod out when I load processed brass or commercial brass. I don't load much commercial brass though most of that gets sold off. I don't have a swagger back up die in my loading tool head anyway. What ever the machine is set up to run is what gets run for the next 10 K to 12 K. After that it gets taken completely down for a good cleaning 
If you shoot enough the extra cost of the S1050 gets offset real fast 
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With the 1050 loading everything is easier. Even if you are not running crimped brass swaging all cases uniforms the pockets making loading faster and wasting less primers. Caliber changes are 20 minutes, if it takes you longer you don't do it very often or aren't mechanically inclined. The one year warranty is a issue, yeah right. I own multiple 1050's and they don't break. They are beyond built. Other than price there is no problems with the 1050. Pics please I'm saving to get my 2nd S1050 now. I woul;d already have the 2nd one but I put the 1st one on an auto drive unit. The 2nd one will have the drive too.
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Wouldn't a decked out DL650 be just as good - and cheaper? I am trying to decide which would be better myself! ~Will If you use once fired military brass it's well worth buying the 1050 as it saves you a step. The swager also uniforms all primer pockets which saves you primers and a lot of pockets are not uniform. |
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someone said they have a foot pedal to run it is this true? You can get a foot pedal to operate this: Auto-Drive There are numerous vids on youtube as well. Just after you spend $1500 + for the press, you need the $800 auto-drive, $550 bullet feeder, $300 primer feeder and once you get all of that setup, then you need a second one in a different caliber... |
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someone said they have a foot pedal to run it is this true? You can get a foot pedal to operate this: Auto-Drive There are numerous vids on youtube as well. Just after you spend $1500 + for the press, you need the $800 auto-drive, $550 bullet feeder, $300 primer feeder and once you get all of that setup, then you need a second one in a different caliber... It doesn't stop there. You still need to keep enough component's on hand to feed the hungry bastards
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Quoted: The downside of the 1050 is initial cost (almost twice as much as a XL650 with casefeeder), the extremely high cost of caliber conversions, the long time it takes to switch from one to another, and the fact that as a commercial machine, it only has a 1 year warranty. The 1050 was designed to be a production machine that is set up in a single caliber and run that way for commercial applications. Don't get me wrong, it's a great machine and does what it was designed for very well but it costs a ton. These presses are also very popular with the competitive shooter. Why do you think Brian Enos is one of the most mentioned retailers on this site |
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thanks everyone for the replys, just one more question. What kind of savings per round can I expect over buying ammo,,, say .223, .45, .308, thanks again That would depend on lots of variables. How much was the brass? How many times have you fired it( reloaded it) What type of ammo is it. Big difference from 55 grn blasting ammo to 75grn BTHP Match ammo Do you plan on buying component's in bulk to save money on the Haz-Mat fees ? Or can you get them local and cheap? Over all I would say you could save about 1/2 the cost of most factory ammo. If you have done your cost cutting homework
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Quoted: thanks everyone for the replys, just one more question. What kind of savings per round can I expect over buying ammo,,, say .223, .45, .308, thanks again Do the math http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp |
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