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2/24/2010 7:23:34 PM EDT
I have just bought 500 452. 230gr LDRN to load in my 45acp. What I 'm looking for is some advice I was told a few things like I would need a "separate case mouth flaring die or your powder drop die will also do case mouth flaring." Since I'm new I'm going to ask a lot of questions until I get what there talking about!

What I'd like to know is if this has what I need in it to get the lead round loaded? Lee Deluxe Handgun 4-Die set includes a carbide full length sizing die with decapping unit, carbide powder through expanding die, for expanding and belling the case mouth while charging the case with powder, a carbide bullet seating die, and Lee's exclusive carbide Factory Crimp Die. The carbide Factory Crimp Die checks the size of the case, ensuring that every round will chamber properly in your gun?


Also is there anything else I should I know about loading lead rounds?
2/24/2010 7:30:57 PM EDT
[#1]
You can load lead with a standard 3 die set.  The mouth expanding die is a standard item, you need to expand the case mouths even when loading jacketed.  I never use the Lee carbide crimp die with lead bullets.  Lead bullets are supposed to be slightly over sized, the lee carbide crimp die squeezes them and the brass down leaving you with a smaller than optimal bullet diameter.  Love the carbide crimp die with jacketed.
2/24/2010 7:42:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
You can load lead with a standard 3 die set.  The mouth expanding die is a standard item, you need to expand the case mouths even when loading jacketed.  I never use the Lee carbide crimp die with lead bullets.  Lead bullets are supposed to be slightly over sized, the lee carbide crimp die squeezes them and the brass down leaving you with a smaller than optimal bullet diameter.  Love the carbide crimp die with jacketed.


Thanks I have another step to do I guess! That's OK I need something to do!
2/24/2010 8:12:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I have just bought 500 452. 230gr LDRN to load in my 45acp. What I 'm looking for is some advice I was told a few things like I would need a "separate case mouth flaring die or your powder drop die will also do case mouth flaring." Since I'm new I'm going to ask a lot of questions until I get what there talking about!

What I'd like to know is if this has what I need in it to get the lead round loaded? Lee Deluxe Handgun 4-Die set includes a carbide full length sizing die with decapping unit, carbide powder through expanding die, for expanding and belling the case mouth while charging the case with powder, a carbide bullet seating die, and Lee's exclusive carbide Factory Crimp Die. The carbide Factory Crimp Die checks the size of the case, ensuring that every round will chamber properly in your gun?


Also is there anything else I should I know about loading lead rounds?


You have the dies you need.

You want a 4 die set to seat bullets in one die and crimp in the FCD, (just a light crimp).

No need to do it the hard way with a 3 die set.

Deburing the case mouth also helps.
2/24/2010 10:20:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Follow the directions for your four die set to the letter for set up.  Don't try and read between the lines. Just set your dies up as directed and you are good to go for loading lead. Have fun !
2/25/2010 10:43:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Just don't do what I did and buy Dillon dies for a non-Dillon press –– then you won't have and expander die. (Dillon presses expand on the powder station I think)

Fortunately my local fun shop traded me out for some standard RCBS dies (I went all-green when I started out).

However I'm quickly becoming a Lee convert. I'm pretty sure most any die set I buy henceforth will be Lee. No compelling reason to spend more money on other brands' 3-die sets when I can get a Lee 4-die set (with FCD) for less money.
2/25/2010 11:14:48 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Just don't do what I did and buy Dillon dies for a non-Dillon press –– then you won't have and expander die. (Dillon presses expand on the powder station I think)

Fortunately my local fun shop traded me out for some standard RCBS dies (I went all-green when I started out).

However I'm quickly becoming a Lee convert. I'm pretty sure most any die set I buy henceforth will be Lee. No compelling reason to spend more money on other brands' 3-die sets when I can get a Lee 4-die set (with FCD) for less money.


Hope you don't ever decide to cast and load your own bullets for a gun with oversize dimensions. The FCD will size them smaller and you'll get the joys of leading.
2/25/2010 12:04:30 PM EDT
[#7]
You're right –– I should have qualified that by saying I've never been into casting. Sorry for creating confusion given that this is a thread about lead bullets.
2/25/2010 12:15:38 PM EDT
[#8]
I have used a 3 die set for years.  What is the big deal about seating and crimping most normal pistol shells in the same operation?

I might be able to see thin walled shells like the 38-40 and 44-40 but 9mm, 40, 45, 38, and 357 have always loaded just fine for me on a three station Lee Pro 1000 press.
2/25/2010 12:34:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Whatever type of dies you use, get a DILLON CASE GAGE.  If they don't fit in the gage they probably will not fit in your gun
2/25/2010 12:45:44 PM EDT
[#10]
All I load in pistol is lead rounds. I have never used the FCD and I have loaded over 4,000 45 acp rounds and only had a few hicups at first. Watch your powder charge, check your measurements (oal) and make about 30 rounds to test before you go all out. Its easier to take apart or toss 30 rounds than it is to do the same with 300 rounds.  Good luck.
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