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1/8/2010 6:09:29 AM EDT
I have been using Winchester standard primers for my reloads in .308.  I mostly use them in a non match M1A and a FAL.  I usually use 150 gr Hornaday bullets.  Most of the time I load with BLC (2).

Yesterday on a spur of the moment I picked up 1000 magnum large rifle primers simply because they were available.

I know that in .223 they suggest magnum primers when using BLC (2).  I have never seen magnum primers called out  in the loading data for BLC (2) in .308.

Does anybody have any experince in using magnum primers in .308?  I assume it would increase the pressure but would also would cause better combustion.

Any wisdom before I work up the loads?
1/8/2010 6:23:06 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I have been using Winchester standard primers for my reloads in .308.  I mostly use them in a non match M1A and a FAL.  I usually use 150 gr Hornaday bullets.  Most of the time I load with BLC (2).

Yesterday on a spur of the moment I picked up 1000 magnum large rifle primers simply because they were available.

I know that in .223 they suggest magnum primers when using BLC (2).  I have never seen magnum primers called out  in the loading data for BLC (2) in .308.

Does anybody have any experince in using magnum primers in .308?  I assume it would increase the pressure but would also would cause better combustion.

Any wisdom before I work up the loads?


You answered your own question.

Drop the load by 10% and work your way up. My suspicions tell me you will gain 100-200fps right from the get go. But don't take my word for it.
1/8/2010 6:24:52 AM EDT
[#2]
I have used magnum primers many times when that's all that is available for standard loads. You know what to do, work up loads slowly until you get the desired results or see signs of pressure.
1/8/2010 6:36:11 AM EDT
[#3]
Use the primers that your book recommends.

BTW, I've seen Mag Primers recommended for use with certain powders like, W748, BL-C(2), and H335 in .308 Win.

Then note (taken from the Speer #10 manual):

Magnum Primers

Magnum primers contain a greater amount and/or slightly different explosive mix than is used in standard primers. On ignition, magnum primers give longer burning, hotter flames. Their use is recommended for (1) any ammunition that will be used at or below zero degrees F., (2) with most Ball powders and (3) with slow burning rifle powders like MRP and IMR 4831 in very large cases. Magnum pistol primers often will give more uniform velocities in magnum handgun cartridges loaded with large charges or slow powders like 296, 2400 and H-110. Magnum primers may be used with faster burning or easy-to-ignite powders, but normally there will be no advantage in doing so. As when changing other components, it is advisable to reduce powder charge weights on initial loading with magnum primers.



Aloha, Mark


1/8/2010 10:33:43 AM EDT
[#4]
I use magnums for any ball powder.
1/8/2010 3:01:20 PM EDT
[#5]
I believe the CCI #34 primers ( the "mil-spec" LR ones ) are magnum, and are recommended for use A. anytime... B. To help ignite Ball and other powders in cold weather conditions. ( Arctic Weather combat...)
1/8/2010 3:35:15 PM EDT
[#6]
I always use magnums in my .308 loads. As a matter of fact, all the primers I have are magnums. Never used anything other than that. But I also haven't loaded any really small cartridges.
1/8/2010 7:25:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I use magnums for any ball powder.


Me too!  Especially if the ammo is gonna be used when it's cold out.

1/9/2010 4:47:21 AM EDT
[#8]
You will be fine.  Just start low(do not go below Min or Start) and work up.  Speer #13 lists mag primers for 308 with BL-C(2), of course Speer lists a mag primer with all ball powders.

Speer 150gr, BL-C(2), Start 40gr 2372fps,, Max 44gr 2607fps. CCI Mag Primer.
1/9/2010 7:53:31 AM EDT
[#9]
We use maginum primers with AA2230 for .308 loads.
1/9/2010 7:59:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Magnums are good for winter time loads up here in Up State NY.
1/10/2010 11:14:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Do what you feel prudent and comfortable with but I would suggest going mid range on the data for a start. The difference between standard and magnum primers is not that great. Yes there is a difference but it is like going from a firecracker to an M-80. Personally I would only back off 1.5 gr. and work back up.
1/11/2010 5:46:56 PM EDT
[#12]
All that said, my experience is a lot of unburnt powder and erratic performance at range.  
May be it's time I try them again.  
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