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1/7/2010 8:46:29 AM EDT
I dug out an old partial box of Meister bullet 200 grain Semi Wad Cutter bullets this week and put them together.

I have no idea why I bought these... probably no RN bullet in stock at the time.  Why do people load these when Round Nose is no more expensive?

I felt like an old fudd puting this ammo together.
1/7/2010 8:49:30 AM EDT
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I dug out an old partial box of Meister bullet 200 grain Semi Wad Cutter bullets this week and put them together.

I have no idea why I bought these... probably no RN bullet in stock at the time.  Why do people load these when Round Nose is no more expensive?

I felt like an old fudd puting this ammo together.


Semi wad-cutters cut nice clean holes in paper targets, and are going to be as effective (or even better) as a RN for most other applications.


1/7/2010 8:50:50 AM EDT
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Same reason you just stated. I bought some just because there was no 230gr RN in stock. But its not that I do not like the SWC they leave a clean hole and shoot very very well, very light
1/7/2010 8:55:09 AM EDT
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if you plan on killin shit, they do a lot more damage in flesh than a RN, plus the target shooters like em due to nice round holes.
1/7/2010 9:08:56 AM EDT
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if you plan on killin shit, they do a lot more damage in flesh than a RN, plus the target shooters like em due to nice round holes.


This is a fact. I use my reloads with 200 g LSWC as my EDC ammo. My test on deer carcass revealed that these bullets will be very effective in the event that I need to ventilate a bad guy or guys.
1/7/2010 9:14:20 AM EDT
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I felt like an old fudd puting this ammo together.




Damn whipper snappers, show some respect.

1/7/2010 9:31:59 AM EDT
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I'll try to shoot some into water jugs to see what they do.
1/7/2010 9:36:35 AM EDT
[#7]
200 grain SWCs is all I shoot now from my .45s.  Why?  Because all of my .45s feed them perfectly.  And 200 grain is what John Moses Browning designed the 1911 around.



I have shot 185s but since the 200s are cheaper, why not?



Nice scoring holes, good terminal performance and probably good penetration.  My CCW instructor carried 185 FMC WCs in his carry piece.
1/7/2010 9:47:26 AM EDT
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 Because all of my .45s feed them perfectly.


That make a lot of sense.  SWC really gives the bullet tip a much better approach on the chamber/feedramp compared to round nose.
1/7/2010 10:52:41 AM EDT
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I used 200 lswc's all last year shooting USPSA. Did pretty well with them too. I use them because in my main Single Stack gun they are alot more accurate than the 230's.
They also have a little snappier recoil. Which simulates my .40 limited gun a little better. And yes, I do get some A's as opposed to C's with the nice clean hole they make.
Like I said tho, the main reason is accuracy.

And last year I needed all the accuracy I could get. At our Area match we had poppers at 40 + yards. And a small popper at 30-35 yds.
1/7/2010 11:10:36 AM EDT
[#10]
200 gr. LSWC bullets in .45 ACP with BE is what I use to use for 2700 Match shooting.

It cuts nice holes.

Some may choose 185 gr LSWC bullets as their favorite.

Just make sure that your firearm will feed it.

Aloha, Mark


1/7/2010 11:36:55 AM EDT
[#11]
Because they leave nice clean holes in the hostage targets.



1/7/2010 1:56:30 PM EDT
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 Because all of my .45s feed them perfectly.


That make a lot of sense.  SWC really gives the bullet tip a much better approach on the chamber/feedramp compared to round nose.


Believe it or not, many pistols that feed RN bullets will choke on SWCs.

A good throat polishing will usually solve the problem.

1/7/2010 2:12:52 PM EDT
[#13]

Because I have over 1500 of them loaded!
Loaded 1000 last week, because it was too cold to shoot the 500 I had left.

Seriously though... they are accurate, make nice holes, kill bowling pins & steel plates...
they've done everything I've asked of them, no reason to think they wouldn't do anything else I ask.

1/7/2010 2:46:28 PM EDT
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Believe it or not, many pistols that feed RN bullets will choke on SWCs.

A good throat polishing will usually solve the problem.



Hey, OP!

I can't remember what I pistol I shot these in last time I loaded them.  I don't remember any feeding issues.  I just hated having to reset my bullet seating die when I switched over from RN.
1/7/2010 3:19:57 PM EDT
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Because I have over 1500 of them loaded!
Loaded 1000 last week, because it was too cold to shoot the 500 I had left.

Seriously though... they are accurate, make nice holes, kill bowling pins & steel plates...
they've done everything I've asked of them, no reason to think they wouldn't do anything else I ask.



Can you ask them to give me $500 bucks.
1/7/2010 3:55:10 PM EDT
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Believe it or not, many pistols that feed RN bullets will choke on SWCs.

A good throat polishing will usually solve the problem.



Hey, OP!

I can't remember what I pistol I shot these in last time I loaded them.  I don't remember any feeding issues.  I just hated having to reset my bullet seating die when I switched over from RN.


Many high quality modern 1911s will feed them fine.  Most old military 1911s will not, without a little polishing.

If yours feeds them, then I can almost guarantee you that they will shoot very nice groups for you.

1/8/2010 8:06:52 AM EDT
[#17]
I have heard the following, but have no experience with it so I dont know if it is true.

Outside of the fact that SWC leave nice clean holes, the crisp and sometimes larger holes also increase the possibility your shot gets into the next highest scoring ring, if needed.

I dunno, just what I have heard in the past
jonblack
1/8/2010 8:18:46 AM EDT
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I have heard the following, but have no experience with it so I dont know if it is true.

Outside of the fact that SWC leave nice clean holes, the crisp and sometimes larger holes also increase the possibility your shot gets into the next highest scoring ring, if needed.

I dunno, just what I have heard in the past
jonblack


That is correct.

In old "bullseye" matches, if you cut the higher ring, you got credit for the higher points.  A SWC will give you the maximum diameter hole for the caliber.



1/8/2010 3:30:54 PM EDT
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 Because all of my .45s feed them perfectly.








That make a lot of sense.  SWC really gives the bullet tip a much better approach on the chamber/feedramp compared to round nose.






Believe it or not, many pistols that feed RN bullets will choke on SWCs.





A good throat polishing will usually solve the problem.










On regular M1911s, just a little polish of the frame's feed ramp is enough.  A touch on the barrel, if it needs it.  Takes just a minute.





Getting that and the slide's breech face smooth ensure proper feeding.  Spring follower forces the next round up under the extractor while the nose rides the feed ramp up.
 
1/8/2010 3:33:34 PM EDT
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Believe it or not, many pistols that feed RN bullets will choke on SWCs.



A good throat polishing will usually solve the problem.








Hey, OP!



I can't remember what I pistol I shot these in last time I loaded them.  I don't remember any feeding issues.  I just hated having to reset my bullet seating die when I switched over from RN.


And there is one of the features of Dillon dies that just rocks.  Take the hitch pin out, flip the seating stem over, then slip is back in.  Usually perfect for the bullets I use.  But for 200 grain SWC, seating depth isn't as critical and should be just enough to leave 0.010" of the shoulder on the bullet proud of the case.  When crimped (lightly), the case mouth will impress a small ridge into the bullet, preventing setback.



 
1/11/2010 4:33:06 AM EDT
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These things gave my 1911 a few malfs on Saturday.  The feed ramp is fine, but the feed ramp portion of the barrel sticks back just a hair too far and gives the bullets a slight lip to hang up on.

Not a big deal since I shot them all up anyway, and I can't ramp the barrel without ruining the hard chrome.  I'll just stick to ball in this pistol.
1/11/2010 9:00:45 AM EDT
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These things gave my 1911 a few malfs on Saturday.  The feed ramp is fine, but the feed ramp portion of the barrel sticks back just a hair too far and gives the bullets a slight lip to hang up on.

Not a big deal since I shot them all up anyway, and I can't ramp the barrel without ruining the hard chrome.  I'll just stick to ball in this pistol.


    Will changing the length of the " barrel link " change this ?  How / where it locks up ?

Thanks ,
God bless
Wyr
1/11/2010 10:03:32 AM EDT
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I don't think so because the barrel link is vertical when the slide is in battery.
1/12/2010 10:15:13 AM EDT
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Because they leave nice clean holes in the hostage targets.





Dead hostage, nice round holes, LOL...Been there, done that!

Of course, once one person hits the hostage, someone else will follow.

1/12/2010 10:41:22 AM EDT
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Nope, That won't fix it. That is if the correct barrel link was installed in the first place... Sounds mor like someone went too far on the feed ramp.
Optimum height for reliably feeding SWC in a 1911 chambered for 45acp is between 2.40 and 2.45.

Link
1/12/2010 11:28:13 AM EDT
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Sounds mor like someone went too far on the feed ramp.


That's pretty much it.  It's a production gun, and I shot the last of my SWCs so I'm not even thinking about getting any work done to it.  It runs great with ball and Hollow point ammo.
1/12/2010 2:56:03 PM EDT
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if you plan on killin shit, they do a lot more damage in flesh than a RN, plus the target shooters like em due to nice round holes.


This is a fact. I use my reloads with 200 g LSWC as my EDC ammo. My test on deer carcass revealed that these bullets will be very effective in the event that I need to ventilate a bad guy or guys.


reasonable real world testing.  I like this.    Way better than goats!
billy boy
1/12/2010 3:23:07 PM EDT
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Because 200gr 45  swc are accurate as heck in any 45 i have ever shot. any they cut nice clean holes and there is tons of reloading info out there for them.
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