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6/28/2009 2:00:59 PM EDT
Do any other reloaders use IMR4198 or H4198 in their .223 reloads,or have you tried it.
I have a good bit of that powder on hand and am using it with the Hornady 55 gr BTFMJ bullet.I also have H335 but have read that H335 is dirtier in the AR.
6/28/2009 1:50:11 PM EDT
[#1]
This should probably have been posted in the reloading forum.  But yes, 4198 will work fine - particularly with 45-55 gr heads.  Burn rate is a bit faster than optimal, so It is not a powder with which you should try to maximize velocity.  Port pressure will be less vs something like 4895 or H335.  Even so, most guns will cycle such loads.

But there is nothing whatsoever wrong with H335 in the 5.56.  It is easily my favorite powder for near maximum loads with 55 gr heads.  Goes like 4895 in the garand, 231 in the 45ACP, butter on peas, and sprinkles on ice cream.

Sam
6/28/2009 2:00:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Moving to the proper forum.
6/28/2009 4:42:34 PM EDT
[#3]
I would save 4198's with 55 grain bullets for times when I'm in a pinch and use it with bullets 50 grains and lighter.

I don't know where all the opinions about one gunpowder or another shooting dirtier than the rest - they're all dirty, and as near as I can tell, the differences are thin.

6/28/2009 5:57:25 PM EDT
[#4]
I had problems with 4198 in my 20" barrel AR. The powder was too fast. It would not cycle complete. It works fine in my 16" barrel AR. It is not the best but will work.
6/28/2009 6:00:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I also use it with 55 fmj, 19.8g, wolf mag primer and lake city brass.
6/28/2009 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#6]
I used up 8 pounds of the stuff for my .223 loads. 55 grain projo's.
6/29/2009 8:25:58 AM EDT
[#7]
I've used it without any problems.

Not to many years ago it was considered "the" powder to use.
6/29/2009 10:05:25 AM EDT
[#8]
I have used it in some .223.  Overall I'm pleased with it in my so far limited experience.  With a 55 grain FMJ and a starting load of 19.0 grains I am getting 2650-2700fps out of an 18" Mini-14.  I haven't tried it in an AR yet.  Its economical given its somewhat lower charge weights than a lot of .223 powders and since I'm not going for hyper velocity, just a reliable reasonably accurate load, it meets my needs nicely.

6/29/2009 11:03:05 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I've used it without any problems.

Not to many years ago it was considered "the" powder to use.

I think you've confused 222 Rem with 223 Rem.
4198 has never been considered "the" powder for the 223. but has for the 222 in BR.
'Borg

6/29/2009 4:43:21 PM EDT
[#10]
I have tried it with poor results. Burned to fast for me. Had short stroking or bolt lock back problems with some 20" guns.
6/29/2009 5:38:10 PM EDT
[#11]
Are we talking H4198 or IMR4198? The IMR powder wouldn't cycle my 55gr loads until i was near max charges..
H335 or BL/C2 has been working nicely for me.
6/29/2009 6:03:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I have tried it with poor results. Burned to fast for me. Had short stroking or bolt lock back problems with some 20" guns.


Same problem here.  It worked fine in my mini-14 but short stroked the AR.
6/30/2009 9:38:48 PM EDT
[#13]
H4198 Works really great if you guys ever get a .45-70 or .450 Marlin.    
7/2/2009 5:55:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
H4198 Works really great if you guys ever get a .45-70 or .450 Marlin.    


Don't forget .444 Marlin.  I use it to load for my .45-70 and .444, its an added bonus that it works for the poodleshooter as well.

With a mid-range charge in my .444 I'm consistently hitting 2000fps with a 300 grain XTP.  I load more sedate loads in .45-70, not wanting to push that 405 grain bullet nearly as fast.  I'm happy with 1300fps or so there, though the cartridge, rifle, and powder is capable of a lot more, I'm not sure that my shoulder is interested in the experience.


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