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5/27/2008 6:34:32 PM EDT
So I have been loading rifle ammo for a little over a year now (I've done pistol alot longer).  I have only used commercial brass.  I have never swaged a single case.  I have loaded some of my brass up several times. I keep reading that some people swage all their brass.  I originally just thought it was what you did to military brass.  What are you achieving with commercial brass when you swage it?
5/27/2008 7:20:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Swaging is done to remove the primer crimp from military brass.  I think there are pics of crimped primers in the resource threads at the top of this forum.  
5/27/2008 7:30:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I know that but  I remember reading some people saying that they do it with commercial brass also.  Why would it be done with commercial brass.  Maybe I am mistaken.  I know why it is done to military brass.
5/27/2008 7:43:18 PM EDT
[#3]
You only swage to remove primer crimps--from whatever brass has crimped primers.  
5/28/2008 9:42:20 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I know that but  I remember reading some people saying that they do it with commercial brass also.  Why would it be done with commercial brass.  Maybe I am mistaken.  I know why it is done to military brass.


Yes, for a military crimp...........removal is done with a swage or reamer.

And, there might be some, that may use a swage on a commercial case.   Perhaps they think it'll help to "uniform" the pocket size.

Well: To each his own.

ME, I can see "uniforming" the primer pocket size of a commercial case.    But, that is usually done with special "reamer type" tools.  For depth and width as well as hole size...........and de-burring of the flash hole (using the tool inserted from the neck).

Aloha, Mark

5/28/2008 1:31:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Some folks like me just believe it is quicker to run everything through the swagger than it is to seperate. I have the Dillon unit and I ran all my cases through it. It goes so fast, it is just easier. If it didn't have a crimped primer than it didn't do anything, but at least I won't have any cases that I missed.

NCH
5/28/2008 2:46:57 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Some folks like me just believe it is quicker to run everything through the swagger than it is to seperate. I have the Dillon unit and I ran all my cases through it. It goes so fast, it is just easier. If it didn't have a crimped primer than it didn't do anything, but at least I won't have any cases that I missed.

NCH
The Dillon Super Swage will also uniform the primer pocket opening to some degree.  And running everything through it is probably a bit faster than sorting then only swaging the cases that need it.
5/28/2008 8:15:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Some commercial 223 brass has crimped primer pockets, from what I understand Remington is the only 223 brass that is not crimped at all.

These are all Winchester commercial 223 cases, the ones on the left are all crimped, the ones on the right aren't crimped.

5/28/2008 9:39:41 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Some commercial 223 brass has crimped primer pockets, from what I understand Remington is the only 223 brass that is not crimped at all.


+1.  I have encountered .223 FGMM cases with crimped primer pockets.
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