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5/2/2008 9:15:00 AM EDT
The brass that I foud was crimped how will this affect my reloading? Or how the round will perform when I reload it without crimp?
5/2/2008 9:17:03 AM EDT
[#1]
What was crimped?  The primer pocket or the case mouth?

Not sure I understand your question??
5/2/2008 9:17:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Double tap...



piece of shit, slow ass computer...
5/2/2008 9:40:46 AM EDT
[#3]
WELL.......assuming he's talking about the "military" primer pocket crimp.


There is more than one way to skin a cat.  My way of doing things may not be suitable to some of the other folks out there........so, take it for what it's worth.......this is/was, only my advice, which you got for FREE, so it's worth that much (if anything at all). YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY.
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Note that this is step #2 and #3 for ME.

2) With once fired military brass, this next step only has to be done once. De-cap the once fired military brass using a skinny nail/punch and anvil (with a hole in it, large enough for the old primer to fall out of, but still support the case rim).  Or, buy the LEE military primer de-capper set (#90102-.30 cal., #90103-.22 cal.).  Simply, run the nail/punch down through the case neck.  The nail will enter the flash hole and rest against the old primer.  Put the case on the anvil (old primer centered over the anvil’s hole).  Then, with a hammer knock out the old primer, letting the old primer fall through the hole in the anvil. Yes, the military crimp is sometimes that stubborn.

3) Again, since we’re using once fired military brass, this next step has to be done only once.  The primer crimp will need to be removed.  The crimp gets either swaged or reamed/cut. My friend has a Dillon swage and I use a Lyman hand reamer/cutting tool. Both can do the job......one is cheaper. Lyman hand reamer (#7777785 Large, #7777784 Small).  I do the crimp removal while watching TV. It's as simple as: pick up a case, insert the tool into the primer pocket and twist, remove case, next.....

*Commercial cases, usually don't have a primer crimp to bother with.  So, steps 2 and 3 can be omitted. Likewise, for the next time you load these “already treated” military cases.



IMHO......."Deal with the military crimp".........re-load the brass.......and move on.  It's nothing to REALLY WORRY about.  

Course, IF you're looking for the "ultimate accuracy"..........note: BR guys usually don't use "once fired military brass."

Aloha, Mark
5/2/2008 10:55:10 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
WELL.......assuming he's talking about the "military" primer pocket crimp.


There is more than one way to skin a cat.  My way of doing things may not be suitable to some of the other folks out there........so, take it for what it's worth.......this is/was, only my advice, which you got for FREE, so it's worth that much (if anything at all). YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY.
__________________________________________

Note that this is step #2 and #3 for ME.

2) With once fired military brass, this next step only has to be done once. De-cap the once fired military brass using a skinny nail/punch and anvil (with a hole in it, large enough for the old primer to fall out of, but still support the case rim).  Or, buy the LEE military primer de-capper set (#90102-.30 cal., #90103-.22 cal.).  Simply, run the nail/punch down through the case neck.  The nail will enter the flash hole and rest against the old primer.  Put the case on the anvil (old primer centered over the anvil’s hole).  Then, with a hammer knock out the old primer, letting the old primer fall through the hole in the anvil. Yes, the military crimp is sometimes that stubborn.

3) Again, since we’re using once fired military brass, this next step has to be done only once.  The primer crimp will need to be removed.  The crimp gets either swaged or reamed/cut. My friend has a Dillon swage and I use a Lyman hand reamer/cutting tool. Both can do the job......one is cheaper. Lyman hand reamer (#7777785 Large, #7777784 Small).  I do the crimp removal while watching TV. It's as simple as: pick up a case, insert the tool into the primer pocket and twist, remove case, next.....

*Commercial cases, usually don't have a primer crimp to bother with.  So, steps 2 and 3 can be omitted. Likewise, for the next time you load these “already treated” military cases.



IMHO......."Deal with the military crimp".........re-load the brass.......and move on.  It's nothing to REALLY WORRY about.  

Course, IF you're looking for the "ultimate accuracy"..........note: BR guys usually don't use "once fired military brass."

Aloha, Mark


not looking for "ultimate accuracy" just curious if they will perform different that factory win case's... BR= black rifle? Bench rest?
5/2/2008 11:00:19 AM EDT
[#5]
Once done (de-crimped)........they will be GTG (Good To Go).  I wouldn't WORRY over it.

BR=Bench Rest.

Aloha, Mark
5/2/2008 11:04:35 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
What was crimped?  The primer pocket or the case mouth?

Not sure I understand your question??


Well I wasn't sure myself but I called them and its a mil primer crimp..
5/2/2008 11:06:22 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Once done (de-crimped)........they will be GTG (Good To Go).  I wouldn't WORRY over it.

BR=Bench Rest.

Aloha, Mark


Ya I just order 5k because and ill just get it done.. I ordered that much figureing that with the way shit is going up I better get in soon or ill be biting the bullet even worse. I just started to get into reloading so I don't have any brass stocked up or anything..
5/2/2008 11:08:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Now one more question I use hornady one shot and the cases are covered in the shit and they are hella sticky. I was thinking that I would run them under HOT HOT water before i prime then and then throw them in the dry would that clean them up? I don't have a tumbler atm so that is out of the question
5/2/2008 11:27:03 AM EDT
[#9]
I would invest in a tumbler before much longer.  I tumble my rounds for 10 minutes or so to get the case lube off.  
5/2/2008 11:43:59 AM EDT
[#10]
Again.....how you do it is up to you.....FOR ME.......(note the # on the step)........




1) Clean the cases. I use a liquid brass cleaner (Birchwood Casey # 33845 CCI).  Follow the mixing instructions on the package.  After the soak/cleaning, the cases are removed from the solution and air dried. The solution is re-usable.  IF, you wanted to use an oven for drying, use the lowest heat setting.  

Why a liquid brass cleaner?  Well, it eliminates the need to buy a tumbler (or vibratory machine). I don’t have to buy media and I save on electricity. There is the added bonus of no noise and/or dust in my work space. And, if I were to tumble/clean de-primed brass, I would have to worry about stuck media in primer pockets and flash holes.




And, for cleaning after re-sizing........




7)  Clean off the case lube.  Either with another soak in Birchwood Casey cleaner or a quick wipe off with a cloth dampened in solvent.  



Aloha, Mark
5/2/2008 12:19:07 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Now one more question I use hornady one shot and the cases are covered in the shit and they are hella sticky. I was thinking that I would run them under HOT HOT water before i prime then and then throw them in the dry would that clean them up? I don't have a tumbler atm so that is out of the question


A little can of lighter fluid is cheap and removes lube well when used with a paper towel.  There's no way I would do thousands that way, or even very many hundreds.


To wash in hot water, add Dawn dishwashing soap in a bucket, and stir the whole mess around.  Dry in the oven with the temperature set to 200F or thereabouts.  Hot water alone won't work.

You may be using too much lube, too.
5/2/2008 12:25:34 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Now one more question I use hornady one shot and the cases are covered in the shit and they are hella sticky. I was thinking that I would run them under HOT HOT water before i prime then and then throw them in the dry would that clean them up? I don't have a tumbler atm so that is out of the question


A little can of lighter fluid is cheap and removes lube well when used with a paper towel.  There's no way I would do thousands that way, or even very many hundreds.


To wash in hot water, add Dawn dishwashing soap in a bucket, and stir the whole mess around.  Dry in the oven with the temperature set to 200F or thereabouts.  Hot water alone won't work.

You may be using too much lube, too.


Ya im working on 900 cases right now so im not gonna baby each one with a paper towel so I think ill try dawn and water... oven baked to perfection
5/2/2008 12:27:07 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I would invest in a tumbler before much longer.  I tumble my rounds for 10 minutes or so to get the case lube off.  


I will get a tumbler sooner or later i know its a must but i have no real need for one as of now...
5/2/2008 1:09:00 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would invest in a tumbler before much longer.  I tumble my rounds for 10 minutes or so to get the case lube off.  


I will get a tumbler sooner or later i know its a must but i have no real need for one as of now...


I sold my tumbler (actually: viabratory case cleaner) years ago.....never looked back.  But, that's ME.

Aloha, Mark
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