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5/30/2016 11:11:06 PM EDT
Hey all,

Just wondering a few things. Has anyone ever ordered an auto blade from bladeplay or blade hq?
If so were you from a state that were it is not legal to carry auto knives. Did bladeplay"s terms and conditions really mean anything? Or just there for you to be paranoid about.

Also, I don't plan to carry the auto knife on me, just keep in my collection for my own enjoyment. Is that legal? I have not found a straight answer.

How many have ordered auto knives online with no trouble, even though federal law states you cannot. Is buying from a site illegal? Am I breaking the law or are they?
5/31/2016 7:55:50 AM EDT
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Automatic knife laws are among the most retarded laws on the books, and for those who would argue that Hollywood is not involved in social engineering here is a good argument to the contrary.

Shipping auto knives across state lines using the US Mail is illegal for the most part. I would not be concerned as long as they are legal where you live and where they are sold and the US Mail is not involved.
5/31/2016 8:15:39 AM EDT
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In PA it's legal to own an auto if "possessed solely as a curio" (source: Title 18 § 908). They are illegal to carry.
5/31/2016 1:12:15 PM EDT
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Do you have to prove you are a curio? Or is it assumed? Like I said with my luck I would never carry one on me in PA just want one as part of the collection.

Even though certain blade selling places (HQ) claim to not ship over state lines, do they anyway?
5/31/2016 9:21:44 PM EDT
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Knifeup.com has an ineractive map of knife laws of the 50 states. Check it out.
5/31/2016 10:10:06 PM EDT
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Do you have to prove you are a curio? Or is it assumed? Like I said with my luck I would never carry one on me in PA just want one as part of the collection.



Even though certain blade selling places (HQ) claim to not ship over state lines, do they anyway?
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For both of those sites, they just send them with little regard to your local laws and it'll show up in a nondescript plastic sack from the postal service.

 



Blade HQ just stopped carrying one of the cheap brands of out the front (Lightning), so try BladePlay for a better experience.




For a "buy one cheap auto" go for a Titan out the front. Lightning is OK, but cheap. Bolt is bottom of the barrel.  I ended up with a Kershaw Launch 1 in Purple too.




Go over to WI HTF and find the thread about it, auto knives were just made legal in WI recently so lots of talk about it.
6/1/2016 10:31:18 AM EDT
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Treat the interstate purchase of an auto knife with the same respect you would posting up a video explaining how to shoulder an AR pistol Brace.

There is statutory law and regulation on it, so, "nobody" does it until the law is changed. Interstate purchase is legally banned. It's been banned for a long time.

How that is being policed I don't know. I do know that the USPS has limited capabilities scanning and inspecting packages with destinations other than Congress. Those get sniffed and x rayed.

Items someone might have purchased from Vegas, Utah, New York, or even Hong Kong aren't inspected. It's a case by case basis, one package in the tens of thousands being shipped is difficult to detect. The USPS has even entered into an agreement to treat Honk Kong parcels as our own thru Epacket and brags on it: https://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2011/pr11_037.htm

So, NO, we don't discuss how to illegally ship auto opening knives in a public forum across state lines contrary to Federal regulations. We just talk about what we can legally possess - which in MO means auto openers can be carried and USED if you have a CCW.

So, I can carry and use the Lightning, Schrade SCMEDB, or the two Ganzo 7212 OD's I have come into possession over the last 45 days. They are a lot of fun and aren't really junk - just inexpensive compared to the Benchmade AFO or Paragon Black Knife which required paying a premium because "auto knife" American makers charge.

This has been going on a long time - when the Boker Button Lock was first imported it was a sub $50 knife, but add a 49c spring and it sold as a $99 auto and still does. All because of a law based on interstate commerce.

Possession and use are entirely local in jurisdiction and at least in MO aren't a major issue. Compared to an assisted opener - frankly, it's the law that makes autos so desireable. They don't have a major advantage any more compared to assisted opening, Spyderco holes, thumbstuds, etc. It's just another mechanical variation now

And with the liberalization of carry by some states, a relatively moot point. How a knife opens is really a "so what" kind of discussion in the larger conversation of self defense, where over 44 states have CCW.

How you might or might not come into possession of an auto opening knife is of little concern except to those who enforce it - or participate in enforcement out of fear of the consequences or as a demonstration of misplaced ego.. A lot of people do that - like range officers keeping AR pistol owners from legally shooting their non-brace equipped firearms. Happens all the time.

We don't discuss how we got them, just that we can legally own them in our jurisdiction and their legal use. Big Boy Rules apply. Here's a discussion on that and it should help: http://weaponsman.com/?p=22922

If you need to ask, then maybe it's not time yet.
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