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11/29/2013 5:53:15 AM EDT
Just ordered one for $190 shipped. Am I going to regret it?
11/29/2013 6:36:31 AM EDT
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For that kinfd of coin you coulda had a serious Cold Steel kukri.



Way better than a hatchet IMO.
11/29/2013 7:29:16 AM EDT
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I wanted a backpack/ SHTF tool. It seemed to fit the bill.
11/29/2013 7:33:40 AM EDT
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where'd you get one for 190?
11/29/2013 8:11:15 AM EDT
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Amazon.



 
11/29/2013 8:20:27 AM EDT
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you really need 3 so you can practice your throwing style
11/29/2013 8:37:30 AM EDT
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Amazon.
 

almost bought from blade HQ. they had it for $225. But I figured I will wait the 2 week amazon wait for $35 savings.
11/29/2013 4:34:28 PM EDT
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Stickmans's facebook page has a pretty good torture test on one, I was impressed.

There's quite a few pics and some good testing-this is cut from stickman's facebook page so look around jul 23 and scroll through for all of it. . . .

Stickman
July 23
Continuing with the Gerber Gear challenge and our Gerber Downrange (DR) Hawk, we found nails in the oak pallets. I know that isn't shocking, but one of the common things to cut through when dealing with wood is nails.

A total of 15 nails met the Gerber DR Hawk, and I didn't find any chips or flaws in the blade. I think part of the reason for this is that he was hitting the nails while they were on wood, which means they weren't always chopped all the way through. To change it up a bit, I had one of the nails put on a rock, and then he made the hit. Yes, the nail certainly was cut easier, but a good hit from the lad made a nice mark on the rock as well. This picture shows the size of the nails as well as some marks on the Hawk head.
11/29/2013 5:18:20 PM EDT
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A $200 hawk made of 420 steel?
12/4/2013 7:03:30 AM EDT
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Is that not good?  How are people liking this?  I figured I'd get one myself.
12/4/2013 8:39:16 AM EDT
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A $200 hawk made of 420 steel?



Is that not good?  How are people liking this?  I figured I'd get one myself.

For $200 you could get FOUR of these: http://www.amazon.com/Estwing-ETA-27-Ounce-Tomahawk-Leather/dp/B00AXV0OVQ/ref=pd_sim_hi_1



What are all you people tomahawking anyway?  I wouldn't spend $200 for something that's going to sit in a box in the garage my whole life.
12/4/2013 11:09:56 AM EDT
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A $200 hawk made of 420 steel?



Is that not good?  How are people liking this?  I figured I'd get one myself.


420 is a lower end stainless steel which is quite soft compared to the carbon or tool steel from which most hawks are forged.

The SOG hawks are the only others I've seen from a similar grade steel but they're $20-40.

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12/4/2013 6:52:08 PM EDT
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420 is a lower end stainless steel which is quite soft compared to the carbon or tool steel from which most hawks are forged.

The SOG hawks are the only others I've seen from a similar grade steel but they're $20-40.

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A $200 hawk made of 420 steel?



Is that not good?  How are people liking this?  I figured I'd get one myself.


420 is a lower end stainless steel which is quite soft compared to the carbon or tool steel from which most hawks are forged.

The SOG hawks are the only others I've seen from a similar grade steel but they're $20-40.

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stickman did a review on it and said it cut through many nails in wood with ease without hurting the blade
12/4/2013 6:56:39 PM EDT
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I have one coming in soon for a customer.  I personally can't wait to see it and put my paws on it.  I agree that the price is steep but if the quality is there it would fill a hole I have.
12/5/2013 2:07:18 PM EDT
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Well I got it today. I really like the feel and weight of it. The blade is so dull!!! A butter knife is twice as sharp as this thing out of the box. Can a spiderco sharp maker take care of that or do I need something more hefty?
12/5/2013 4:20:55 PM EDT
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I don't think a sharp maker will work as you'll want a very obtuse edge on a hawk. I use a bastard file and a Lanksy puck to put a convex edge on my hawks and hatchets.
12/5/2013 4:31:47 PM EDT
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I have some metal files and sandpaper. any of that work?
12/5/2013 5:27:54 PM EDT
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Use the files and finish with some sandpaper on a mouse pad.
12/6/2013 3:04:36 AM EDT
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For $200 you could get FOUR of these: http://www.amazon.com/Estwing-ETA-27-Ounce-Tomahawk-Leather/dp/B00AXV0OVQ/ref=pd_sim_hi_1




Yeah great idea -6.75 lbs of half hammer hybrids hanging off my gear. Believe it or not some folks do use hawks.

As far as dull goes it is a breaching hawk, A fine razor edge will get chewed up when you use it and hit nails and such.
I touched up my RMJ Shrike (yeah I could have got 8 eastwings for the price) and when I hit some nails (hidden cleverly in a 2x4 behind sheetrock it dinged up the edge a little. I got it squared away now.
Try to see how it chops and cuts before you re-profile.
In regards to re-profiling blades I use a WorkSharp.
12/6/2013 5:26:37 AM EDT
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I understand that some do use them, but some people do you rocket launchers too.  For what do regular citizens use them?
12/6/2013 6:19:04 AM EDT
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Emergency what if gear?  Burning car on side of road-trapped occupants- Emergency response 5 minutes out. Gee I'll video this on my cell phone till help gets here or I will try and do what I can.

. It seems every once in a while a "regular citizen " will pop up and comment on something that they have no use for and inform all of their opinion.  Example" Gee you could get a gun or a cold steel chopper instead."  That's the same as you buying a pickup truck and someone says-'gee you could get a sports car instead". "Steak, gee you shoulda got quiche instead"



I realize a "regular citizen" wouldn't assault this innocent abandoned tire
12/6/2013 9:53:35 AM EDT
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That was actually a useful answer.  Not sure what prompted the rest of your tirade:
Gee I'll video this on my cell phone till help gets here or I will try and do what I can.
. It seems every once in a while a "regular citizen " will pop up and comment on something that they have no use for and inform all of their opinion.  
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Wow, seems dangerous to ask a simple question in here.   Either get back on your meds or try a little harder to read what a person actually wrote before commenting.

Never said I had no use for one.  I would love to have one but I wondered what people were using theirs for.  I never opined anything, can you find where I did?  
Yeah great idea -6.75 lbs of half hammer hybrids hanging off my gear
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OK how does the 2# Estwing tomahawk = 6.75# of gear on your pack?  That’s some weird math.  Also, do you seriously walk around every day with a tomahawk hanging off your pack?  Are you a psycho or only mathematically challenged?  I can walk around here with a handgun on my belt and the police wouldn’t give me any grief, but strap a tomahawk on and they’ll be stopping for a visit.  I don’t pretend to understand the logic behind the laws though…

Given that there are uses for one, it would seem better to buy several of the $42 Estwing hawks and stow one in each car, vs one for $200 that might be somewhere else when you need it.
12/7/2013 5:26:35 PM EDT
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Yeah my post was rough -sorry. The 6 lbs is from $200  dollars of Eastwings (4 of them at 27 oz each comes to 6.75lbs-Check your math)
The hawk hangs off my gear in the woods-not in general public. If I'm traveling in a wilderness section with people around it goes in the pack.
It stays handy in the truck or with my gear at work.
Sorry to come off like an A-hole.
The rant wasn't directed at one person-This response was also in there- For that kinfd of coin you coulda had a serious Cold Steel kukri.
Way better than a hatchet IMO.
 There's where the comparisons came from. . The op just asked about a hawk and gets steered to a Kukri.

12/7/2013 7:39:43 PM EDT
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Yeah my post was rough -sorry. The 6 lbs is from $200  dollars of Eastwings (4 of them at 27 oz each comes to 6.75lbs-Check your math)
The hawk hangs off my gear in the woods-not in general public. If I'm traveling in a wilderness section with people around it goes in the pack.
It stays handy in the truck or with my gear at work.
Sorry to come off like an A-hole.
The rant wasn't directed at one person-This response was also in there- For that kinfd of coin you coulda had a serious Cold Steel kukri.
Way better than a hatchet IMO.
 There's where the comparisons came from. . The op just asked about a hawk and gets steered to a Kukri.

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Tell me more about the estwing? Do they come with sheaths? What can I do with one?
12/7/2013 8:06:09 PM EDT
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No experience with the Eastwing- here's a cut and paste from those that do
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Has anyone got one of theses yet? If so what do youthink about it?
Its rock solid. Been using it on a tear out remodel job just to see what its made of. Hit plenty of nails and no dents or chips in the blade. Seems to hold an edge well. Used the spike to bust up a toilet. The black coating is proving really durable too. The edge that came on it sucked but if yer gonna own any edged tool you better know how to sharpen it. Given the price I aint complaining. The handle is slightly softer and grippier than my Estwing hammers.

The grind is too obtuse for bushcraft. Would work in a pinch but not as efficient as a hawk or hatchet made for that. The bevel could be changed but why turn it into something its not when theres plenty of better choices for those jobs. Probably best suited for QCB. Its lightweight and fast. Generates more force than a knife. When it comes to breaching the spike is designed for shattering not penetration. Fine for punching a lock or breaking and raking glass. A fire axe is much better suited for opening a door but also a lot heavier.

Definitely tougher and cheaper than most hawks in its niche. Weather or not its worth owning comes down to your needs and situation.

Originally Posted by rio nueces View Post
A 'hawk needs a hammer poll on one side to be really practical and not just 'tactical'.
That is a frequent myth, the flat side of many spiked hawks can be used very safely to drive tent pegs and the spike makes a great grubbing tool for edible roots, insects or just to break up hard pack or frozen dirt.
To accept perpetuated internet myth as fact blinds one to the potential of the tool at hand.

Read more at http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=272106#BZMZXRMiVKTCCP22.99

Back to original subject-How's that Gerber working out?
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