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4/16/2013 5:07:26 AM EDT
Was kicking around the idea of getting a larger blade for woods use / SHTF purposes. Yes, I know, a SHTF scenario isn't too likely.

Was thinking something that would be good for an all-around blade, camping / survival type situation.

I have a Zombie Tools Parabellum, which is a pretty robust blade already. It's specs are: 12" Blade Length, 18" OAL. It's also pretty thick, in the 1/4" range IIRC. It also has a formed Kydex sheath that can be worn on the leg, and has allot of holes on the sides to use paracord to strap it to something, so mounting options are there.



I also have a few smaller blades that are more of EDC styles. I do have a CRKT "Dragon", but I view that as more of a small fighting-knife, not a camping knife.



I guess my post is kinda 2-part.

Part 1.) If I were to look for a "camping / survival / SHTF" blade, what should I look at?
Part 2.) Would my Z.T. Parabellum fit the bill okay, or should I look for something else?

Thanks!

EDIT: I'm sure my Parabellum would work for the task, and if I had to bug out now, I would grab it for sure. I guess Im kinda asking if there is something else that would "fit the bill better" so to speak.
4/16/2013 12:28:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Do yourself a favor and look through every page of th "my humble submissions " thread and think hard about what your looking for.
4/17/2013 10:31:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:

I guess my post is kinda 2-part.

Part 1.) If I were to look for a "camping / survival / SHTF" blade, what should I look at?
Part 2.) Would my Z.T. Parabellum fit the bill okay, or should I look for something else?

Thanks!

EDIT: I'm sure my Parabellum would work for the task, and if I had to bug out now, I would grab it for sure. I guess Im kinda asking if there is something else that would "fit the bill better" so to speak.


Personally I try to shy away from "Zombie" weapons as they are in the same class as "Klingon" weapons.  The entire reason for their existence is to look exotic and their actual practicality is unproven.  Plus, they're usually made with that 440 stainless steel that can't hold an edge.

What's wrong with the tried and true Kukri?  The last several hundred years has proven the Kukri's effectiveness for being...

-a proven man killer; when a man is stabbed in the stomach with the Kukri he will always instictively double up, afterwhich the kukri is used to strike the back of the exposed neck..  British officers accompanying the Gurkas reported many decapitations on the battlefield

-a proven tiger killer; when a tiger strikes it will instinctively strike out with its paw.  The kukri is used to strike the wrist of the paw, disabling it.  While the animal is shocked by the pain, the kukri is used to slice open the eye on the side of the animal with the disabled paw.  The hunter will then approach the animal on the disabled/blinded side and strike the back of the neck.

-a proven war weapon; British commonwealth and Canadian snipers are issued with Kukris during wartime to use as chopping tools while on a mission.  In the event the sniper is discovered by an enemy soldier it can be used to kill the patrolling soldier silently so as not to reveal his position with a gunshot.  Plus, there's one incident whre a retired Gurka soldier successfully fougnt off some 40 bandits attacking the train he was on in 2010.  

So the question is, what led you to those knives you selected rather than a Kukri?  Was it based upon a field assessment by a survivalist or was it based upon a slick advertisement in a knife catalog?
4/17/2013 11:33:41 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and look through every page of th "my humble submissions " thread and think hard about what your looking for.


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4/17/2013 12:05:01 PM EDT
[#4]
I like the cold steel latin two hand machete
4/17/2013 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Maybe an ESEE 5 or 6, or possibly a Junglas if you want something larger.
4/18/2013 5:31:36 PM EDT
[#6]
The Ontario Kukri is a whole lot of knife for under 100 bucks.

Also check out the TOPS website. They have tons of models from tiny to huge. Good quality stuff made here in Idaho.
4/19/2013 12:01:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and look through every page of th "my humble submissions " thread and think hard about what your looking for.


This suggestion would help, if I knew what features to look for in a blade. If I knew a feature-list, or something to comapare to, then yes, that would work.

And as to the stuff I have, allot of it is for every-day use, some things I bought cause I got a great deal and I liked the knife.

Right now, though, I thought I would look into something that would have real value if I ever needed it.

And as for the Zombie-Tools blade, check out their site. This blade isn't a cheap Chinese POS. Zombie Tools are based in Montana, and hand-make every blade. Here is a little blurb from their FAQ about their blades:

Do you guys actually make these blades?

Yup, we do everything in our shop in Missoula, Montana using American made steel and aluminum. Here’s our basic process:

1) We cut the basic sword shape out of bars of quality 5160 spring steel. 5160 is one of the best steels to use for longer blades like ours as it is more durable and less prone to breakage than other steels (like cheap stainless).

2) For some of our blade models, we will then heat and hammer the blade into shape.

3) We grind the blade to within 20% of its final edge, and give the blade its “distal taper,” the gradual reduction of blade material from its handle to its point, which reduces weight and gives it its balance.

4) We then heat the blade to just above 1500 degrees and quench it in oil. This hardens the blade. We then put the blades in a tempering kiln to take them back up to around 450 degrees, which tempers it, or returns flexibility to the blade. The blade is then cleaned and polished.

5) Next, we cut our basic handle shapes from T6 aluminum, we attach the handle with steel pins, and then sculpt the handle to its final shape using grinders and files.

6) Finally, the blade is spattered with a beeswax/tar concoction and painted with ferric chloride acid which etches a pattern into the blade.
4/20/2013 4:30:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and look through every page of th "my humble submissions " thread and think hard about what your looking for.


+ 1

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