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Posted: 2/19/2012 7:31:49 PM EDT
| If switch blades are illegal in most states why was able to buy a Milano at the gun show? Is it leagal to own in your house only but not carry on you? I have a CCW permit can I carry the Milano knife with my 9mm or is the permit for handguns only? |
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automatic knife= knife that opens completely on its own upon moving or pressing a switch or button.
The rules change depending on state, county, city/township, and ordinances. It is never illegal (as yet) to own one in your home but getting it to and from you home or buying/selling it is another matter. Don't ever use it to defend yourself, you will never get it back nor most likely will Law Enforcement look favorably on you. It is just the way it is. This Milano is an italian auto? It could have been imported to the country legally in another state then it went across state lines with the dealer you bought it from. Not necessarily illegal. My lawyer says "Caveat emptor" which means ''buyer beware". It is up to the buyer to know and understand the laws under which something they buy. |
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http://www.knife-expert.com/sta-law.htm#A-H
Go here and check your state. May not be the most up to date info but it's a start. |
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automatic knife= knife that opens completely on its own upon moving or pressing a switch or button. The rules change depending on state, county, city/township, and ordinances. It is never illegal (as yet) to own one in your home but getting it to and from you home or buying/selling it is another matter. Don't ever use it to defend yourself, you will never get it back nor most likely will Law Enforcement look favorably on you. It is just the way it is. This Milano is an italian auto? It could have been imported to the country legally in another state then it went across state lines with the dealer you bought it from. Not necessarily illegal. My lawyer says "Caveat emptor" which means ''buyer beware". It is up to the buyer to know and understand the laws under which something they buy. This, absolutely a well informed answer. I do not know CO law specifically. Texas CCW laws do NOT allow for any other weapon that are not already legal themselves. If you carry an ASP baton, automatic/ gravity knife, or nunchaku it is in violation of sate laws in TX. Even police officers must receive additional training prior to carrying baton (expandable or PR24 style), taser, or even OC sprays. However there is no qualification for an edged tool, yet they allow carry, without regulation for police officers. I carried a couple of auto knives while on duty. I worked in Military, LE & Security (EP) roles, and with each I carried an auto. Technically there is no provision for EP (Executive Protection) professionals to carry autos either, but client protection comes first, so the risk of prosecution is a consideration each agent must make. Now, since I am not on active duty, it would be in violation of laws, specifically a class A misdemeanor (in TX). As such, it could cause you to loose your ability to obtain a CCW, and depending on other charges (based on each state) it could be up-graded to a felony, thus preventing gun ownership for the rest of your life. While this is normally not the case, it is always a possibility, especially with today's knee-jerk law enforcement policies and practices. I like the style of the "Milan type" switchblades, and have many stilettos designed to look like an auto. Many areas consider "stiletto knives" as an illegal weapon, depending on state. While I have several of the autos, that I used on duty and have even bought since then, there remains the question, "How do you legally bring one home after purchase?" If you are concerned about being stopped/ checked and thereby "busted" before you get home, simply pay an additional fee for it to be mailed to your home by a private carrier. For speed of deployment, in an emergency, there are several designs that are equally, if not faster than that of an auto. I usually carry a fixed blade anyway, however designs such as Emerson's wave, can be put into battery equally fast with a little practice and training. On the cheaper side, Cold Steel's Ti-lite is somewhat reminiscent of Italian designed autos, and feature "tabs" on the blade, which can provide for fast opening, one handed (check out their videos if interested) . However, it may be classified as a stiletto, and thus still be prohibited. Another problem arises when there is not a clear definition, by the courts, of what constitutes a "stiletto" knife, and officers will utilize their own definition, which means inconsistency from one officer to another. Know your local laws, but beware, officers vary greatly from one to another, and many do not know the actual laws of their own state. I have had many officers measure a blade, by placing it in the palm of the hand, making sure the blade does not exceed the with of the palm. Problem is, this is an urban legend, which is said to approximate the length required to stab the heart, if it is shorter than the palm, then it is incapable of reaching the heart. Sounds stupid when explained. But it never fails when I teach a TCLEOSE (governs TX police) educational course, an experienced officer always gives this as the "test" to see if it is legal or not. The real "test" is if it is 5.5" or shorter............for fixed or folding (In TX). NEVER count on local Law Enforcement to know weapon laws/ regulations. Because of most training requirements, and included curriculum, weapons laws are not thoroughly studied. Rather, they are drilled with the "weapons are bad!" mentality, which creates just as many anti-knife officers, as you will find anti-gun individuals. I hope this helps you in some way. -PC- |
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That's a lot of questions that are all different for each state. I would suggest you search for your state's knife laws to see what they are. This And quit calling them switch blades they are Automatic Knives. Oh yeah? The VA code identifies them as "switch blades.": "§ 18.2-311. Prohibiting the selling or having in possession blackjacks, etc. If any person sells or barters, or exhibits for sale or for barter, or gives or furnishes, or causes to be sold, bartered, given or furnished, or has in his possession, or under his control, with the intent of selling, bartering, giving or furnishing, any blackjack, brass or metal knucks, any disc of whatever configuration having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, or like weapons, such person shall be guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor. The having in one's possession of any such weapon shall be prima facie evidence, except in the case of a conservator of the peace, of his intent to sell, barter, give or furnish the same. (Code 1950, § 18.1-271; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1985, c. 394; 1988, c. 359.)" http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-311 |
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Get yourself a Dual Action automatic knife. For less expensive models that are still really nice, check out the Vallotton and Diskin Dual Action. For higher end knives, you can carry a Lone Wolf Diablo. Lobo, D2, etc.
All of the dual actions have a hidden scale release. The blade still opens manually with a thumb stud and looks like a normal pocket knife. But rock the scale about 8 degrees and wham, out comes the knife blade faster than hell. I don't know of any police officers that could identify a dual action since there are no buttons or swtiches on the knife. Carry at your own risk, but that is the best option out there for states that don't allow them. |
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Get yourself a Dual Action automatic knife. For less expensive models that are still really nice, check out the Vallotton and Diskin Dual Action. For higher end knives, you can carry a Lone Wolf Diablo. Lobo, D2, etc. All of the dual actions have a hidden scale release. The blade still opens manually with a thumb stud and looks like a normal pocket knife. But rock the scale about 8 degrees and wham, out comes the knife blade faster than hell. I don't know of any police officers that could identify a dual action since there are no buttons or swtiches on the knife. Carry at your own risk, but that is the best option out there for states that don't allow them. The best option for places that don't allow them is to use a regular knife. I have several autos but rarely use them because I have found them to be less useful than a regular knife with a thumbstud or hole. I don't even care for "assisted" knives that much either. I find the spring loaded mechanism on both to be fragile on most and more likely to jump out of my hand when opening. They are generally a fun toy but, while I have them and can carry them legally here, I don't use them much. |
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