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Posted: 1/10/2012 2:09:12 PM EDT
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If you have a carry permit for your state, does that affect the length of the blade you can carry? Seems to me if you're allowed to carry a handgun with umpteen rounds, what difference does a couple inches on a blade make? What is a large Bowie compared to a handgun? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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That varies from state to state.
In Kentucky, a Concealed Deadly Weapons License is just that. You can carry a sword and a M60, if you desire. I know IN has some prohibition on certain types of knives. Some cops would go after a person who carries an assisted opening knife. Others would not. Indiana Code. IC 35-47-5-2 Knife with blade that opens automatically or may be propelled Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a blade that: (1) opens automatically; or (2) may be propelled; by hand pressure applied to a button, device containing gas, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife. As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.70-2000, SEC.2. Now remember, you will find assisted opening knives for sale in Indiana. While switchblades remain illegal in U.S. interstate commerce since 1958 under the Switchblade Knife Act (15 U.S.C. §§1241-1245), Amendment 1447 to 15 U.S.C. §1244, signed into law as part of the FY2010 Homeland Security Appropriations Bill on October 28, 2009 provides that the Act shall not apply to spring-assist or assisted-opening knives (i.e. knives with closure-biased springs that require physical force applied to the blade to assist in opening the knife). While functionally similar, the two designs share slight but important differences. A switchblade opens its blade from the handle automatically with the press of a button, lever, or switch that is remotely mounted in the knife handle or bolster. In contrast, a spring-assist design uses a lever or switch mounted on the blade or connected via a direct mechanical linkage. Manual pressure on this lever overcomes spring pressure designed to keep the blade closed, which in turn causes the blade to partially emerge from the handle. At this point an internal torsion spring takes over, rapidly forcing the blade into an open and locked position. |
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In Missouri I can carry a .44 Magnum but if I'm caught with an automatic knife it's a felony. It's the law, it's not supposed to make any sense. seconded. in Louisiana, we have a Concealed Handgun Permit, not a Concealed Weapons permit. kind of a gray area if you get caught concealing a knife or a billy club or something, i'm told. |
| in ohio our carry permit only allows you to carry guns any amount orf handguns and ammo. but no knife concealed over last time I checked 3 1/2 inches blade folded or fixed unless it is a utility blade defined as such proof of intent must be able to provided. landscapers can have a machete on them. and so on sucks I cannot have a concealed kabar fighter on my person but I can have a 44 mag handdgun. makes so much sens don't it. please if anything can be added for ohio please chime in I love learning what we buckeyes have . |
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in Ohio our carry permit only allows you to carry guns any amount orf handguns and ammo. but no knife concealed over last time I checked 3 1/2 inches blade folded or fixed unless it is a utility blade defined as such proof of intent must be able to provided. landscapers can have a machete on them. and so on sucks I cannot have a concealed kabar fighter on my person but I can have a 44 mag handdgun. makes so much sens don't it. please if anything can be added for ohio please chime in I love learning what we buckeyes have . Just to make it clear for Ohioans: There is no state law restricting blade lengths. Your local government may have such a law, but the State of Ohio does not. Ohio law prohibits the concealed carrying of a "deadly weapon" which is defined as "any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon." What does that mean for carrying a knife concealed on your person? 1. "any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death" means any knife you own, but you also have to add one more thing to the mix 2. Either the knife is "designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon," or it is "possessed, carried, or used as a weapon." So the eight inch deer skinner in your backpack can kill, but isn't designed for use as a weapon. The issue becomes of one of intent. Why were you carrying it through the woods versus why were you carrying it at the mall? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Depends on state law ^This^ In Las Vegas, NV the blade must be LESS than 3" to be carried concealed. A CCW Permit for a handgun has nothing to do with blade carry in Nevada. Ny doesn't have a size limit but "dangerous knives' are prohibited and you have to read case law to determine what that is. Of course some guy looking at a bowie knife in a hardware store is going to run across the street and read all the cases defining 'dangerous knife" to see if the one he wants might be covered Course there is an "intent to use as weapon" statute that they use to charge anyone a police officer feels has something they shouldn't![]() it does seem weird that a bunch of western states have size limits when we don't
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Depends on state law ^This^ In Las Vegas, NV the blade must be LESS than 3" to be carried concealed. A CCW Permit for a handgun has nothing to do with blade carry in Nevada. Ny doesn't have a size limit but "dangerous knives' are prohibited and you have to read case law to determine what that is. Of course some guy looking at a bowie knife in a hardware store is going to run across the street and read all the cases defining 'dangerous knife" to see if the one he wants might be covered Course there is an "intent to use as weapon" statute that they use to charge anyone a police officer feels has something they shouldn't it does seem weird that a bunch of western states have size limits when we don't I know, right! We have "Dangerous Weapons Laws" here in Nevada too, Bro. Fortunately, in Nevada you can Open Carry a loaded handgun on your person (without a permit), a loaded handgun Concealed in your vehicle (under the seat, glove box, console, trunk, etc. without a permit), and an AK with a loaded 30 round mag in the gun on your front seat with no round in the chamber (Fish and Game Law) without a permit. But, when it comes to Knives... it gets a little sketchy. Go figure.
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Originally Posted By ishoot2live I know, right! We have "Dangerous Weapons Laws" here in Nevada too, Bro. Fortunately, in Nevada you can Open Carry a loaded handgun on your person (without a permit), a loaded handgun Concealed in your vehicle (under the seat, glove box, console, trunk, etc. without a permit), and an AK with a loaded 30 round mag in the gun on your front seat with no round in the chamber (Fish and Game Law) without a permit. But, when it comes to Knives... it gets a little sketchy. Go figure. ![]() We can do all of that, plus carry a Bowie knife openly. |
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Colorado is still horribly afraid of dancing Puerto Ricans*, so automatic knives are right out.
I got pulled over one time while carrying my 1911 with several assorted handguns on the passenger seat and a couple rifles in the back, and the cop got twitchy about a Gerber LMF
I don't understand this overreaction to chunks of sharpened steel, but there you go. * West Side Story apparently prompted the law. I shit you not. |
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Laws don't make sense because those that made the law don't carry knives in their normal work. I consider a knife a necessary tool but they do not. Now, carry permits that actually say 'CCW" should allow anything that is to be considered a weapon under the laws of that state. Some states have changed it to "CCP" for Citizen's Concealed Pistol...this certainly clarifies the permit. Florida has CCW and they mean 'weapon' for once.
What causes problems in many cases is old laws still on the books that have never been removed, new laws that are vague (intentionally) created as a knee jerk reaction to some perceived problem, or some other well intentioned bs. I know of a lawyer that is an anarchist (I kid you not, he is. I don't know haw he justifies it but he is a nice guy that likes weapons, cash, and family, so what can I say?) and he looks stuff up for me and helps me determine by his experience what and what not would most likely be prosecutable under the laws. Nice guy actually. |
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I know, right! We have "Dangerous Weapons Laws" here in Nevada too, Bro. Fortunately, in Nevada you can Open Carry a loaded handgun on your person (without a permit), a loaded handgun Concealed in your vehicle (under the seat, glove box, console, trunk, etc. without a permit), and an AK with a loaded 30 round mag in the gun on your front seat with no round in the chamber (Fish and Game Law) without a permit. But, when it comes to Knives... it gets a little sketchy. Go figure. ![]() We can do all of that, plus carry a Bowie knife openly. Yeah well, Kentucky rocks as far as weapons go. I long for the day Ohio changes its concealed handgun permit to a concealed weapons permit like Kentucky has. |
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Now remember, you will find assisted opening knives for sale in Indiana. Most states dont regulate the ownership of items. They generally just regulate the public possession of them. I can buy switch blades at any gun show in TX. I cant legally carry one unless I`m on private property. ETA - At least thats how my neighbor (Dallas PD) explained it to me. |
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Yeah well, Kentucky rocks as far as weapons go. I long for the day Ohio changes its concealed handgun permit to a concealed weapons permit like Kentucky has. I think Ohio allows carry in bars. KY does not. It is pretty stupid. Bars are full of people who cannot think straight, yet one is not supposed to carry a gun in a bar... super stupid. I think KY is looking to ban parachutes and ejection sets from aircraft in the state of KY. But, people will still be allowed to have them in cars, houses, and boats. |
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I've found this site usefull in my travels. IANAL, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, nor am I even remotly aware of any state laws outside of TX.
Hope this helps! Knife Laws by State |
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Course there is an "intent to use as weapon" statute that they use to charge anyone a police officer feels has something they shouldn't