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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:27:59 PM EDT
| Looking at a Noreen Ulr and a Armalite ar50. Whats a better riffle for a entry level 50 shooter? |
| I nominate an upper for an AR lower. The Ferret 50 made by Spider Arms. And if you are one of those who like to shoot what a champion shoots. The World record for smallest group at 1000 yrds was just broken with a Ferret 50. Forgot the group size but think it was something in the area of 4.2" for 5 shots. |
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I nominate an upper for an AR lower. The Ferret 50 made by Spider Arms. And if you are one of those who like to shoot what a champion shoots. The World record for smallest group at 1000 yrds was just broken with a Ferret 50. Forgot the group size but think it was something in the area of 4.2" for 5 shots. Nice! Im gona look into that, thank you |
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Dave Moore makes a quality upper 50BMG unit in his Ferret50 design. Patrick did replace his worn-out barrel with a Lilja unit prior to shooting his new Unlimited Worlds Record of 5-shots into a group of 2.045" center-to-center at a FCSA Sanctioned 1000 yard competition at Alliance Nebraska.
Dave's upper can be used with any standard AR-15 lower, or with dedicated design single-shot steel lowers available from Dave or others. I truly enjoy my AR-50 and my State Arms Shorty.= both of which have been re-barreled bwith Feddersen units and using an ArmaLite AR-50 muzzle-brake. I do NOT have good things to say about the one Noreen I have examined. |
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I nominate an upper for an AR lower. The Ferret 50 made by Spider Arms. And if you are one of those who like to shoot what a champion shoots. The World record for smallest group at 1000 yrds was just broken with a Ferret 50. Forgot the group size but think it was something in the area of 4.2" for 5 shots. FPNI!!!!!!! |
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I've owned the Noreen. It's very heavy and has some sharp edges. I've cut myself with the rifle a few times.
I ended up selling it due to how slow it is to reload. AR50 or other true bolt action will be much faster at reloads for follow up shots. The muzzle brake on the Noreen works very well...felt recoil was comparable to .243. If this was my money, I'd say get a Ferrett 50. Dave is awesome to talk to on the phone. |
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Burn her! Burn it if is a Hesse or Vulcan, do not buy ay any price, unless you intend to create an nice floor lamp with what is salvageable. Armalites are okay, very heavy. Ferrets have made some good shooters. I have a Steyr HS50 that really shoots, but more $$$$. Built a SHTF 18" mag fed on a Stubborn Mule single shot lower, it's fun to shoot. Have the bipod and carry handle on it, no feed or extraction problems as others have posted. |
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As mention the Ferret 50, Safety Harbor SHTF 50 are AR-15 conversion type and pretty inexpensive. Also the Zel Customs Tactilite T1 upper. You can put together a nice single shot gun with an AR lower setup just like you want for $1600 -2700 range with the SH the cheapest, the Ferret 50 the most expensive and the Zel in-between. If you have an AR lower or other parts laying around you can build one even cheaper. That's pretty entry level for a 50 BMG. These vary a little in design and price between the different companies, but essentially are similar in concept. Also since these upper are considered a non controlled gun part you can just order one, have it shipped directly to you and not go through an FFL (pending local regs). Your AR lower is what is papered.
SH mag-fed SHTF 50 below. I have many hundreds of rounds through 3 of these things now and have not had any significant issues. A mag-fed 50 for $2300-2400 range. Standing and firing these offhand is more fun than should be legal 
Moving up the price scale, the AR50 and Barrett 99 would be good choices. Have shot a friends Barrett 99 quite a bit. No complaints with that gun other than it's big and heavy but I guess heavy is good for recoil. The recoil and muzzle blast is a bit more on my little Safety Harbor conversions. Lots more 50 BMG choices. All it takes is imagination & money. I'd sit down and really think about what you want to do with your 50. What type/distance shooting you'll be doing etc. Good luck with your choice. |
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Back in 05 a good buddy of mine while home on leave from Iraq got the bug and bought a Bluegrass Armory VIPER XL 50 BMG. He put a big Barska scope on it and maybe put 25 rds through it over the years. Anyhow I had to help him move alot of his gear out of a bordering state when the white trash he befriended and lived with started stealing from him ( that family's son was a meth/pillhead and could do no wrong you see ) .
As it stands now his disabled after his second Iraq vacation back in 07. I helped him move more gear 2 weeks ago and he gave my son that Viper and 400 + rds of ammo with about 1/3 spotter and tracer. Confirmed zero and 'we' have put about 60 rds downrange. Loads of fun. Only thing I noticed I found problematic is the lead weight in the removeable butt has swelled and is more or less stuck in the receiver. Not a big issue. Recoil is very manageable even for my 11yr old mini-me. Anyone here have experiance with this brand of rifle ?. At the time he bought it he lived in Richmond KY and the manufacturer ( Bluegrass armory ) was literally a few blocks from his abode ( when he was'nt deployed ) . He got great customer service form the place but I am thinking I read that they sold out and am no longer in business at that location. All in all it's an expensive gift to my son and counting the dozen other old milsurps my friend has already given my son , it's his favorite by far now. |
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Back in 05 a good buddy of mine while home on leave from Iraq got the bug and bought a Bluegrass Armory VIPER XL 50 BMG. He put a big Barska scope on it and maybe put 25 rds through it over the years. Anyhow I had to help him move alot of his gear out of a bordering state when the white trash he befriended and lived with started stealing from him ( that family's son was a meth/pillhead and could do no wrong you see ) . As it stands now his disabled after his second Iraq vacation back in 07. I helped him move more gear 2 weeks ago and he gave my son that Viper and 400 + rds of ammo with about 1/3 spotter and tracer. Confirmed zero and 'we' have put about 60 rds downrange. Loads of fun. Only thing I noticed I found problematic is the lead weight in the removeable butt has swelled and is more or less stuck in the receiver. Not a big issue. Recoil is very manageable even for my 11yr old mini-me. Anyone here have experiance with this brand of rifle ?. At the time he bought it he lived in Richmond KY and the manufacturer ( Bluegrass armory ) was literally a few blocks from his abode ( when he was'nt deployed ) . He got great customer service form the place but I am thinking I read that they sold out and am no longer in business at that location. All in all it's an expensive gift to my son and counting the dozen other old milsurps my friend has already given my son , it's his favorite by far now. My friend has had his BG since 2005 timeframe and shot hundreds of rounds through it without incident. I have shot it a fair amount and like it. Very accurate. I once put a bullet exactly through a previous bullet hole in a 3/4" steel plate at 100yds. Everyone thought I missed the plate because it didn't ring. Then we figured it out, it went cleanly through the first hole. That wasn't the only fantastic shot with that 50 either, it easily shoots MOA or less. Never had any problems with it that I heard of. He still has it. A solid all around great performing 50 BMG. Very similar to the Barrett 99. This gun is heavy with a decent brake so recoil shouldn't be a problem, his kid was shooting it when he was 10 or 11. I hear that Bluegrass makes/made good stuff. |
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There is a killer deal on an HS 50 right now with a Leopold on gunbroker right now . IMO get .50 built with a hammer forged barrel for the price of an AR15 kit gun.
If I didnt have 3 x .50's right now I'd jump on it. But Christmas IS sneaking up.... Maybe for the wifey ? 
Exhibit "A" at the divorce trial. |
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Ar-50.... I had a Millett scope on a 300 winmag, so it was kicked to the curb! LOL I had no idea it was so big 
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm234/daveo11/IMAG0486Large.jpg So you bought the AR50? Congrats, by all accounts a great, great BMG. Never shot one but handled a couple times. It is a monster of a gun. |
Nice choice Daveo. I had a Safety Harbor before I got my AR-50. I wish I had done it in reverse. I have to admit that I wasn't crazy about the looks of the AR-50, but, it grows on you once you experience the mechanics and reliability of the platform. I wish Armalite made a tactical, mag fed version.
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